Calderon is pathetic

He has had enough those shots exclussive to the BOD was painful to even watch.

 

The way he finished the fight does not equate to "going out on his shield".

I have no problems with Calderon choosing health over valor at this stage of his career but I do have a problem with the hipocrisy of those who agree that he only showed up for a pay day and then refuse to admit he just gave up once he realized he was over matched.

 

The way he finished the fight does not equate to "going out on his shield".

I have no problems with Calderon choosing health over valor at this stage of his career but I do have a problem with the hipocrisy of those who agree that he only showed up for a pay day and then refuse to admit he just gave up once he realized he was in over his head.

 

I think for the first two rounds he thought maybe he could win, so it wasn't so much that he just arrived with the mindset of just collecting a paycheck (although anybody from the outside looking in could tell he was a dead man walking in this rematch).

Then Segura just clobbered the fight out of him.

We should be giving credit to Giovani, not disparaging Ivan.

 

Every fighter that gets into a boxing ring should have the mentality of going in to win the fight and not..."lets see how long I can last". It was obvious he didnt believe in himself before he stepped into that ring and wanted a severance package. When I think of modern quitters I will think of guys like Calderon and Freitas alike.

 

what happen to segura leaving on a stretcher?? :rofl....:hat

 

Did you really take that thread title seriously?

 

Who said that? They must have been joking.

 

NO, just joking with you man.

 

Calderon was just overmatched. Put yourself in his shoes. Valuev coming after you, you know he won't get tired and all he wants to do is pound on your arms and body. Sooner or later you're going down.

Calderon is never beating anyone Segura's size. He needs to fight at 105 and just dominate guys his own size.

On another note, I don't feel good about Segura's chances as he moves up in weight. I think he might become the Antonio Margarito of the lower weight classes. But I'll be rooting for him cause he's awesome.

 

It's not just size, it's age too. I've been saying since the Iribe fight - Calderon's legs are gone.

He'll get beaten at 105, too (that's assuming he'd even make weight anymore).

I agree that size is definitely integral to Segura's success, though. He seems to be the type that has to be bigger & stronger. So is Gonzalez, really (as became apparent in his last fight) - which is why I no longer think challenging Segura is a good idea for him.

 

Kel you're a shittastic poster.

EDIT: and as far as I can see Roman has much better skills and talent than Segura, i dont give a **** how big the mofo is.

 

The 5'4 giant


From what I've seen the last year or so Segura takes this fight.

 

No need to be so harsh on your boy, man. The fact that he stepped in the ring with a dangerous opponent like Segura AGAIN after being brutally stopped the first time tells you enough about his huevos. This fellow mexican has his hats off for el chico de hierro. This may cause contoversy for some of the fellow ESB posters here, but i consider Ivan Calderon, the puerto rican rican Miguel Canto...He was there against much bigger dudes, and usually schooling them, but he ust met a hungry younger stronger, bigger dude in Segura. so much respect to the little guy, y'all ricans should be proud of him. :good

 

Ey vato. i have respect for your boy, and you are right...His time was up, and i hope he calls it a day now, cuz i wouldnt want him to risk his health. Compa had a brilliant career, and is def a HOFer..Im glad you're not giving him **** like some other dudes around here. Soy mexicano, pero mis respetos para el Iron Boy.