Calisthenics vs lifting.

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by PIPO23, Aug 9, 2021.

Which is better?

  1. Calisthenics.

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  2. Lifting.

    12 vote(s)
    42.9%
  1. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I started calisthenics.

    It's awesome no need for gym and being lock down to a gym membership which can cost a lot of money in a long run.Just build your own pull up bars, dips and many other apparatus. Now the advantage obviously is no need to go to the gym, you can do it all in the luxury of your own back yard, specially now with the lock downs with gyms being closed. It's way more fun and not have gym roiders around..

    Which is better?
     
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  2. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    You will make quicker progress with weights in my opinion. If you are really skinny, how much mass will you gain by pushing/pulling your skinny body up?

    Also legs are very hard to do. Very few people have the balance or strength to do pistol squats. Hill sprints could be an alternative but then you need a nearby hill. How do you do shoulders?

    If you have space in your garage you can buy a bench, squat rack (that doubles up as a bench press holder) and an olympic bar and weights. That will be all you ever need and should last forever.

    All professional boxers lift now.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I prefer lifting weights personally. I have a home gym and have had for many years, I don't think I've been in a commercial gym for probably 15 years or more.

    Calisthenics is fine but progression is trickier. I guess it depends on your goals and how you prefer to train.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

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    I like Calisthenics when cutting, so I don't have to experience dropping numbers in my lifts.

    But in an ideal world I'd always lift, and just get over my mentality when cutting.

    That being said I'm currently working towards a one armed pull up and a one armed push up and those are both quite cool if I get there.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

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    You still on GZCL?

    I made some good progress using that. Got my Bench over 100kg and my Front Squat to 83kg. Deadlift hasn't improved much at all though, still at 133kg which is miles lower than I used to be able to do years ago when I did them regularly.
     
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  6. kim_jong_un

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    Exercises done with your own bodyweight have exactly one advantage over exercises done with weights: they're more or less free. They're inferior in every other aspect.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah I'm doing my own custom GZCL with higher reps just because I hate higher reps and I think it's time I invested some effort into higher rep ranges. But I'm switching back to normal GZCL J&T 2.0 once I finish this block of training.

    I've been treading water on my max lifts but then I haven't really been trying to lift heavier with the higher reps.

    Nice work on 100kg bench that's still eluding me, max still 98kg and it's dropped a few kg since I did that but then I only weigh 59kg at the moment which is light even for me.

    My deadlift I'm just purposely training with a max of 140kg still, don't feel the need to go higher, though I did manage a 150kg deadlift this week after squats.
     
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  8. panchman69

    panchman69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    both have their pros and cons. but for me, the only weight lifting i do are deadlifts, and squats. everything else i do with my own bodyweight.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    I'm doing it as 3 sets of 5, rather than 5 sets of 3. So I go 3x5 for tier 1, 3x8 for tier 2 and 3x12 for tier 3.

    Given up on back squats now, just purely front.

    All the CHB lot are in a WhatsApp now so it keeps us all motivated.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm the opposite I've given up front squats because I twice injured my back doing them and since ditching them I've been injury free.

    I'm still just doing low bar squats and Platz squats though am thinking of trying to see if I can do high bar again, depending on my mobility and just alternating between low and high bar if possible as apparently high bar squats have some carry over to improve your low bar.

    I vaguely remember someone mentioning a WhatsApp just before I decided to bail on CHB. I was time poor at the time and honestly I only used CHB in the end just for that training thread as the lounge was dead, so just stopped going on there.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    My reason is weight related. Don't have to load as much on Front Squat and my gym is still upstairs in the spare room.

    Yeah same I used it pretty much exclusively for training or a chess thread, don't really use it all now. Can't remember last time I posted on it.

    Use the WhatsApp group every day though, the ****s just won't let up on it haha
     
  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've always wondered how hard a gymnast could punch. All the correct muscle groups are developed and with a bit of refining and technique I am sure the power is not too far behind.
     
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  13. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was always told by the old school trainers that weights tear the muscles inward which will cause muscle fatigue faster for a fighter. While aerobic exercise will tear the muscle outwards and give it a longer look and allow for better muscle stamina. That’s why you see bodybuilders with bent arms because the muscles are torn in giving them that ball appearance to there biceps. I’m not an expert but it made sense and when I started to incorporate weights I did experience muscle fatigue which is when this was explained to me afterwards.
     
  14. PIPO23

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    I got meself a teeter gravity boots and hanged upside down. Damn, that thing will sort you back out real nice. I plan to do some upside down set up that will be really weird having blood rushing down your head. But the back seems way better than usual and well align. I don't wanna be bulky.

    I weigh 94 kg can easily reach 100 plus with protein shakes which i don't take and eat a fat protein diet.I don't need that sh@t.Gaining weight is not a problem believe me. It's losing and maintaining lol.

    Burpess, diamond push ups, pull ups, encline push ups, dips are enough to get that lean mean ripped look.
     
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  15. PIPO23

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    Those guys are powerhouse to be able to propel themselves off the ground and spin around in the air like they don't care.I am sure with proper technique and training they can punch hard AF! Indeed.
     
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