call me crazy, but I think Wilder ko's AJ

Just answer the question.

Oh yeah you can't

 

You're not crazy, Wilder to stop AJ is a very reasonable predicton but if he can't get that stoppage he will lose.

 

You’ll probably disagree with this but I actually think Gassiev’s left hook is harder than anything in Wilders arsenal. I forget who it was, could find the video though, but Gassiev actually lifts a guy off his feet with it to end a fight.

Didn’t even throw it from the the other side of the ring either. It was tight and textbook and QUICK.

 

Fair enough

I think you add all the punches together and average them out its similar but i think AJ's straight right is klitschko level, and that's the shot that had wilder in all kinds of trouble in sparring hence my aj pick

 

Well I see where you’re coming from but different scenarios in different fights with the same guys isnt always concrete evidence. Wlad did land his right hand against Jennings yes but not with full force behind it. Not like the one he detonated on the side of Joshua’s face. While Ortiz landed a NASTY uppercut (among other punches) with perfect timing and snap behind it. Different fights with different leverage behind the punches.


I gage it off all fights, sound of impact, the way they’ve moved opponents, word of mouth from sparring and trainers etc. But I know that’s not all concrete evidence.

I wish they would ALL have to hit a Drago type machine as like part of like a boxing COMBINE to put it all to rest.

 

Ortiz does hit very hard, a lot of his power goes from how he sets up his shots, his counter punches are just brutal. He might very well hit harder with that left counter than anything in Joshua's arsenal.

But Joshua is the better puncher as he has better overall offence. Ortiz fights at one pace while Joshua can move through the gears and finish fighters. Ortiz had a very badly hurt Wilder in front of him in the 8th and couldn't put him away because he's a counter puncher and isn't as comfortable when leading. Ortiz also prefers to fight at range he isn't the inside fighter Joshua is, so is less inclined to come forward and get inside on opponents. Joshua in the same situation would of brutally KO'ed Wilder.

 

Actually I’m not sure. Dorticos surprised me a lot in the Gassiev fight. Dude has some whiskers. Maybe he could eat Wilders right without issue... maybe he couldn’t. Maybe he’ll move up too so we can find out and we’ll bump this thread in good fun.

 

Common sense tells us he does.

No way in hell does AJ go 12 with Scott or 7 with dave Allen, even if he is iron chinned.

And there also no way does a clean hit from AJ not out Wilder on the floor.

Similar to your Martin prediction being way off, AJ wins this fight with ease.

 

Am sticking with my prediction I have had for awhile now, Styles make fights and in a round robin IMO wilder k.os Joshua........fury beats wilder........joshua beats fury.

 

It's not crazy, but at the moment I am still favouring AJ to land his big punch first due to his superior boxing skills.

I don't think either will survive if seriously hurt as both are deadly offensive machines with slightly dodgy whiskers. Not glass jaws like some make out, but neither of them are McCall or Vitali in the chin department . If Wilder drops Joshua like Klitschko did, he won't let him off, likewise if Joshua has Wilder ready to go like Ortiz had him.

 

Wilder has at least as much power as Joshua. Can't take a punch as well as Joshua. But doesn't gas out after intense exchange of punches like an amateur bodybuilder.
So all signs for a Wilder KO win over Joshua.

Joshua has a boxing technique (Wilder has none) but that won't help if he gets knocked out in two rounds.