Callazo - thoughts?

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  1. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought he was robbed against Berto and Hatton, personally. If those two were official wins on his record, where would he be ranked as a welter and P4P fighter?
     
    Maxmomer, Jan 25, 2009
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  2. TomaTos

    TomaTos Active Member Full Member

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    I dont know, he cleary beat Berto, not sure about Hatton ill have to rewatch it.
     
    TomaTos, Jan 25, 2009
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  3. lONGCOUNTED

    lONGCOUNTED I Killed MMA Full Member

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    I think that Collazo beat Berto, but the last two rounds definitely cost him. The Hatton fight was close and harder to score imo.
     
    lONGCOUNTED, Jan 25, 2009
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  4. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Berto landed the better shots. He wasnt robbed but it was very close. He`s a great TV fighter though. Brilliant chin and never say die mentality. Collazo will be back.
     
    scurlaruntings, Jan 25, 2009
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  5. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not necessarily asking whether or not you think he won these fights, they were both close and I suppose it comes down to individual perspective, but what do you think would have happened had Callazo been given the nod in them both? Where would he rank?
     
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  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Collazo beat Hatton in my opinion.
     
    scurlaruntings, Jan 25, 2009
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  7. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mine to.
     
    Maxmomer, Jan 25, 2009
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  8. MightyLondoner

    MightyLondoner Underdog Full Member

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    How can you come to this assumption? Watch the fight again and score each round by round, although I think Collazo had the better rounds he didnt have the majority so hence forth Hatton's victory
     
    MightyLondoner, Jan 25, 2009
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  9. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had Collazo winning both by 114-113.
     
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  10. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is anyone going to answer the question put forth in the original post?
     
    Maxmomer, Jan 25, 2009
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  11. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Because scoring is subjective. Im sure your well aware of that and hence why one of the judges had it as close as 114-113. It is my opinion that Collazo`s body of work was far superior and crisper. I dont score punches for ineffective aggresion, cuffing blows and poor ring generalship. I stand by what iv said.
     
    scurlaruntings, Jan 26, 2009
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  12. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    The fight could have easily gone either way...I scored the fight just as Harold did, Collazo winning 7rds to 5. But, i could see how someone would have scored the fight 7-5 for Berto.

    I feel bad for Collazo...he is now entering the dreaded "no-man's land".

    No one will want to fight this guy...he's too much risk for the reward.
     
    link2296, Jan 26, 2009
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  13. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Naw he`ll get fights but he`ll be seen as a gatekeeper. His been unfortunate against Berto and Hatton. Against Mosley he was soundly beaten.
     
    scurlaruntings, Jan 26, 2009
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  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I scored it twice 6-6 and then 7-5 to Collazo, it was very close.

    Mosley ofcourse beat the crap out of him winning every round pretty much
     
    PowerPuncher, Jan 26, 2009
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  15. 555east

    555east Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Interesting hypothetical, but topic starter is giving Collazo too much credit for fights he came up SHORT in.

    sure Collazo could have, or "should have" won

    but he didn't, and it's slowly becoming a common theme of his.

    rather then ponder what could have been, why not live in the reality? (that Collazo coughed up both fights)
     
    555east, Jan 26, 2009
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