Calling all Pac Fans That Hate Excuses for Barrera and Morrales

kg0208 · Aug 5, 2007

Bazooka_X3 said:

I dont ever recall Jones using Winnings brand gloves, do yourself a favor go out and buy a pair of both and try them both out you will see and feel that the Reyes gloves do have more impact on them, while the winnings brand is a cushioned type of impact, they do less damage this is the truth.
what the **** would Roy Jones know about those gloves he has never fought with them
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How in the world do you know what gloves Jones fought with? He could have sparred in them, he could have fought in them before he was a big name. Are you claiming that you know every fight Jones fought in and the gloves he was wearing?

My point is, you say boxers have a different perspective. Jones is certainly that.

DoumB · Aug 5, 2007

Bazooka_X3 said:

I dont ever recall Jones using Winnings brand gloves, do yourself a favor go out and buy a pair of both and try them both out you will see and feel that the Reyes gloves do have more impact on them, while the winnings brand is a cushioned type of impact, they do less damage this is the truth.
what the **** would Roy Jones know about those gloves he has never fought with them
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I had, and its kinda true to an extend but saying he lost cause of it is exxagerating.

acb · Aug 5, 2007

Bazooka_X3 said:

He did fight smart no doubt, but give Manny his reyes gloves and see if Eriks body holds up with the same performance manny had that night, i bet it doesnt. I bet those same shots break Erik down by the 10th round comes along.
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But I doubt he would fight the same way either. I mean if he felt the harder punches, I know he doesnt pull that same **** he pulled in the 12th round for example. Its impossible to know, really. I dont remember Manny going to the body too much in the 1st fight either. He did in the 2nd and 3rd fights along with using his right hand more and it really improved his game.

DoumB · Aug 5, 2007

domngo said:

Actually, I don't need to offer excuses because in actually Pac won over Marquez if not for the scoring error. We are only discussing some aspects of the fights which are verifiable and justifiably w/ basis which without them, it could have turned more favorably w/ Pac. Like the Winning gloves which Pac is not accustomed to. He proved himself right when he knocked out Morales twice w/ Reyes gloves. Had he used that gloves in the first fight, the results would have been different. F

For discussion's purposes, it really depends on the "excuses" mentioned. Camp fire? Barrera could transfer to another camp, couldn't he? W/ Morales's Daddy was not my trainer? This was ruled out that it was not a big factor.
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dude we dont even need to prove you wrong, you do it by yourself,
you contradict yourself in your same post,

first u say we can only verify proven facts and results and then u say with the reyes gloves pav would proly had one, ur soooo much biased its horrible, I hate when u cant even have conversation with a poster cause his love for a fighter is blinding him,

your desesparate man.

acb · Aug 5, 2007

domngo said:

Actually, I don't need to offer excuses because in actually Pac won over Marquez if not for the scoring error. We are only discussing some aspects of the fights which are verifiable and justifiably w/ basis which without them, it could have turned more favorably w/ Pac. Like the Winning gloves which Pac is not accustomed to. He proved himself right when he knocked out Morales twice w/ Reyes gloves. Had he used that gloves in the first fight, the results would have been different. F

For discussion's purposes, it really depends on the "excuses" mentioned. Camp fire? Barrera could transfer to another camp, couldn't he? W/ Morales's Daddy was not my trainer? This was ruled out that it was not a big factor.
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This is exactly what Im talking about.

So you take the position that if the gloves were different, Pac wins the first fight. Others say Pac was headbutted. You guys just refuse to give EM the credit he deserves for beating Pac fair and square, while bitching and whining when people dont give Pac his credit. ****ing pathetic. :dead

Oh and what about the sock excuse? Care to eloborate about on that?

And his loss to Torrecampo? Im sure you have an excuse for that too.

I have defended Pac many times on this site. Barrera is my favorite fighter. Just last night I posed that the fire excuse was bull**** and that Pac was the better man. He deserves the full credit for his win, as does Morrales for his first win against Pac. :deal

Scorpion · Aug 5, 2007

i give pac full credit for beating barrera and morales full credit for beating pac but pac vs morales 2 shouldn`t have ever happened cus erik was beaten by zahir raheem before the fight.BTW gloves have little effect IMO. And the reason i lost a little respect for pacman after the marquez fight is cus of all the excuses he make but its understandable.the excuses for the marquez fight was that the medic took too much blood from him for the examination and the morales excuses were the socks, gloves and headbutt.

Scorpion · Aug 5, 2007

i give pac full credit for beating barrera:good and morales full credit for beating pac:good but pac vs morales 2 shouldn`t have ever happened:nono cus erik was beaten by zahir raheem before the fight.BTW gloves have little effect IMO. And the reason i lost a little respect for pacman after the marquez fight is cus of all the excuses he make but its understandable.the excuses for the marquez fight was that the medic took too much blood from him for the examination and the morales excuses were the socks, gloves and headbutt.atsch

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