Callum John Smith vs. John Ryder - IB's standalone RBR scorecard

Holler · Jan 3, 2020

T0nymac76 said: ↑

Getting the judges to attend the post fight press conference after any fight decided by scorecards.Maybe then when they know that they are going to have to explain the scores if it goes distance they might change there ways. Never will happen though.
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Nine judges employed by the BBBoC for every UK licensed fight. All cards handed in and a randomised process selects two cards from the bunch. The third card is made up of the averages of all nine judges.

Much more difficult to fix and much less vulnerable to the vagaries of any particular observer.

lencoreastside · Jan 3, 2020

IntentionalButt said: ↑

Harold Lederman.
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The very man! Maybe if judges knew that a credible guy like Harold was calling the fight to the viewer audience they might not be so quick to turn in scorecards like the Smith Ryder farce? Just a thought...

George Crowcroft · Aug 21, 2020

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Dunno why, but for some reason I had an urge to watch some John Ryder. I figured why not go for him vs his two best opponents, both of which are close/controversial.

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Feeler out first, Smith reluctant to jab despite the size difference. Ryder quicker to the punch and more active, backing Smith up too. Close 1st. Short 1-2 from Ryder which reminds Callum he's in there with a real fighter. Lazy round from the Scouser, but Ryder fighting in spurts; scoring with combos to the body and keeping slightly out of range of Smith's jab. Interesting third round. Smith could clearly see what he needed to do as he kept trying to time Ryder's jab with a big left hook, but he just couldn't pull the trigger in time. Ryder fed Smith a steady jab and some hard body shots, but also showed he was defensively responsible when he made Smith miss multiple combinations. Big fourth for the Gorilla. Both men traded shots here, but Ryder worked inside clean and landed some heavy body shots whilst making Smith miss. Nice southpaw 1-1-2 to get Smith's attention, in the fifth before before blocking and parrying Smith's return. Better jab from Smith, but Ryder's defence is still excellent. Some heavy lefts from Smith nicks it, but it's close. Smith using his smarts, and not fighting on the inside where Ryder has the advantage. Smith using his 78" reach took this one.

Beautiful smothering in the seventh. Ryder not giving Smith breathing room, and landing some sharp, clean shots whilst deflecting or blocking Smith's shots. Ryder clearly won, on clean punching and workrate. Very close eighth, could go either way. I thought Ryder's workrate was lower, but so was Smith's. Ryder finished strong, but Smith looked in control. I'll give it Smith. Excellent defence from Ryder in the ninth, before bulling Smith back and going to the body. Smith still winning the battle of the jabs, but Ryder is doing well in that area too. Smith putting some spite on his shots, looking for his power. Ryder calm, countering. Short right hooks when Smith throws his 1-2, good round 10. Smith looking desperate. Ryder being patient at mid-range before smothering and working short shots inside. Some shots looked to shake Smith, but they weren't seriously damaging. Great round 11 for Ryder. Final round was awesome. Ryder was more composed, and Smith was chasing a KO. Ryder landing cleaner from start to finish. The first time Ryder was on the ropes was in the final minute, Smith spent half the fight there.

This is a really good fight. High-pace, but well-schooled from both. The robbery ruined it, but it was a fun fight.

At the time, I was suspicious of a robbery before the fight was over. The commentary were talking the whole time like Smith had already won, or couldn't lose. I suspected that they were trying to win people over on the sly, but now I can see that they were just idiots. I remember when one of they read out the 117-111 scorecard, I actually thought they were gonna give it to Ryder. Yeah, it was that wide. My dad summed it up nicely when he said: "that was closer to a shut out for Ryder than a win for Smith!" I actually agree with that on a numbers basis.

I think Ryder should develop a left uppercut to the body. If he had that little sneaky shot, I think he has the kind of style which could really make use of it. He actually already has a real shout as the best in the division. Arguably beat Saunders, clearly beat Smith, he's awful for Plant, and who knows how long Benavidez will stay at 168 for. Canelo will unfortunately be the best when he starts fighting again, though.
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