Calum smith isn't world class

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  1. Scissors

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    He does need to leave Gallagher ASAP IMO.
     
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  2. Smudge_

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    I think Groves will box the ears off Smith. I also think Brahmer would've beat Smith last night. Smith is bang average IMO.
     
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  3. zfc

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    Don't need an out of his depth gobshite any more.
     
  4. BoxingNL

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    I also thought Callum Smith would dominate the SMW.
    But in his last 2 fights he struggled against decent (not great) competition. He has a good jab, but gets hit way too much.
    I think the Groves fight will be competitive and after last night I'm picking Groves to win it.
     
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  5. lencoreastside

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    steady on Moog....groves is multidimensional, it wasn't his jab alone that beat cej. Callum last night was all jab and nothing else. Granted the jab was good but on Its own???? No guarantee that stiff upright immobile version of smith would've held Eubank off for 12 rounds, no guarantee at all....
     
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  6. Twentyman

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    That big uppercut by Smith followed by the slip to avoid Holzken’s hook was class.

    Smith dominated him with the jab. It was a complete shut out. Holzken was very durable so credit to him. Despite all that, Smith is probably deserving of the criticism being thrown his way, today. He’s better than that performance.

    Sometimes, you can’t just box, you have to muck in and have a fight, too. Smith avoids a fight, he sticks to a game plan & I don’t think he looks very good as a result at times if his opponent wants a fight. Saying that, he’s busted both his hands so that’s going to affect his power to get him out of there.

    Once again, like the Skoglund fight, Smith didn’t move his head enough. If we’re gonna praise Junior for his chin though, Smith looks to have a decent chin too.
     
  7. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In fairness he had an issue with his right hand so didnt want to throw it. Gallagher sounded like he expected hand trouble in corner so I dont think Callum was 100% going into fight and because of turnaround to final just done what he had to win and try and not make his injury(s) worse. We all know he has much more than a jab to his game.
     
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  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Eubank would have bullied Smith and made his head target practice all night. That kickboxer had success last night because Callum Stiff rarely moves his head and has the same predictable combination which you can mentally see coming from a mile away because he is heavily relent on his imposing height and reach advantage to be the difference.

    Callum is tailor made for Eubank. Decent Euro level stiff who stands right in front and barely presents any angles.

    Just look at what Eubank did to Abraham(albeit an old one) and you would see the same type of outcome with Eubank vs Stiff.
     
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  9. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is either one of the worst posts I have ever seen on here or your a troll. Anyone who has watched Callum Smith's career knows he's better up close than he is at range. Against good fighters Eubank only has the fitness to fight for half the fight as shown against his best oppnents. Callum Smith is far better than Eubanks up close, has better fitness as can fight for 12 rounds and much more punch power and shot variety and accuracy. If they fought it would not go past 6 rounds unless Smith was in a tournament like this were the aim is simply about winning the thing (Its not about looking good in early fights).
     
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  10. Twentyman

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    Smith would bounce his jab off Eubank’s head all night. Whilst I don’t doubt that Junior would have some success landing on Smith, he doesn’t have that one shot power to knock Smith out. Smith is a very busy boxer, he throws a lot of scoring jabs. He is a better fighter than last night.

    It was 118-110, 117-111....it was an easy, very comprehensive victory. It wasn’t close in the slightest. He copped a few shots but he was never in any danger. We were expecting him to spark him out. I’m really wondering if he could have issues with his hands.
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    We have a Smith fanboy here. He is so amazing he went 12 rounds with a 35 year old kickboxer who took the fight on 5 days notice.

    Better stamina than Eubank? Laughable. The only fight's Eubank's stamina has been called into question was against Saunders and Groves (who are actually world class fighters), as he was hitting fresh air through the majority of the fight.

    He wouldn't be able to miss against Stiff who isn't world class, he's a good euro level stiff who would get bullied and backed up against the ropes against Eubank. The over hand right Holzken landed on his chin at will, because he rarely moved his head are the same over hand rights and uppercuts which Eubank specialises in and he would make target practice of Mr Stiff.

    Callum is a solid decent euro level fighter who has some mongs fooled into believing he is world class. That's it, nothing more.
     
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  12. lencoreastside

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    You didn't see danger signs? The stiffness, lack of mobility, one pacedness, succeptability to right hands etc? That was a very one dimensional performance.remember the opponent was a 34 year old kick boxer who took the fight at 5 days notice. Then there's the hands...and doing the weight....I dunno 20, I wouldn't be too sure about Callum long term at all....just saying....
     
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  13. mgmark7

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    Mundo v Eubank would be an interesting fight, though I expect Eubank would get jabbed stupid and resort to rushing in.

    Can Eubank throw an overhand right regularly during a fight? I think he has hypermobility in his right elbow if I remember correctly he pulled out of a fight due to injury caused by this condition. This type of condition will affect how his shoulder blade moves when throwing punches, especially the straight right and overhand right, hence why he tries to get up close to do his work.

    Still, it would be a good a fight for Eubank. If Mundo is European level then this exactly where Eubank needs to be fighting at this stage of his career.
     
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  14. Twentyman

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    Regarding the opponent, I wrote him off beforehand, but he was a tough you know what. He’s had over a 100 kickboxing fights, so he’s pretty battle hardened.

    He is quite stiff and upright. He doesn’t move his head enough. His high guard invites pressure & shots. I think there is huge room for improvement which he could have done if he’d fought against better more experienced opposition more regularly. He’s an avoided fighter though, he’s not got a proper belt so he’s been in the ‘who needs him club’. He does have solid fundamentals though, which are better than Junior’s imo. At this moment, Groves is too good for him but I think he’ll give him a really close fight. He will learn tons from it.
     
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  15. ipitythefool

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    I bought into the Smith hype a little but he hasn't been impressive for a good number of fights. He's not improving under Joe Gallagher (no surprise there) and just the same thing round after round. Pretty one dimensional and if Groves is on form he will win comfortably in my view.

    Smith seems a nice lad, is dedicated and is a good athlete. He needs a change of trainer to give him more variety.