Calzage-Hopkins-opinion

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins got outworked in a close but UD in my opinion.
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    people forget that Calzage was also in his mid-30's
     
  3. HerolGee

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    they don't, but they recall Calzaghe ages like everyone else when hes waiting for top opponents to fade into their forties before Joe was miraculously cured of his fear of flying.

    kind of difficult for joe not to age a bit when hes waiting for others to turn 40something, no?

    If you want to complain about Joe being 35-36, then you should complain to Joe, hes the one who did it. NOone made him do it, he did it for a very good reason.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    Joe calzaghe, in the wake of his best form ever when beating lacy and Kessler, his best ever opponents, managed to barely eek out a split decision over 40something legend Bhop even though bhop was gased out by round 7, so well was Bernard outboxing joe in the first half of the fight

    well done Joe, you waited to just the right time for jones and hops.
     
  5. The Mongoose

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    He also had to less than stellar performances against Bika and Manfredo inbetween Kessler and Lacy.

    The Calzaghe loss is actually sandwhiched between two fantastic career best Hopkins' peformances and wins against Tarver and Pavlik.
     
  6. HerolGee

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    Calzaghe Manfredo was a fake fight against a tv show guy, how can that be a bad performance? Its fake to begin with.
    Bika was simply a step up from crappy WBO defences, since it was an IBF defence - no wonder joe almost lost sinc ehe was stepping up, and immediately realised his mistake so as to relinquish the ibf title.


    no, its not sandwiched in Hopkins stellar unbeaten career run at MW, its stuck between Hopkins losing his MW credit, and getting minced by Dawson - which is exactly what joe wanted. A faded 40something legend who could no longer win everything.

    tbf joe thought 40something Hopkins was fcked and now easy meat. how wrong he was, he barely won.
     
  7. The Mongoose

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    Not sure if I should take these first two paragraphs serious.

    Dawson was 4 years after the Calzaghe fight. Taylor were close disputed fights 2 years prior to the Calzaghe fight. Inbetween these low points: Hopkins has wins over LHW King Tarver, Pascal, MW Champion Pavlik, P4P rated Winky Wright, and the close fight with Calzaghe all while enjoying a top 5 4 P4P rating himself.

    I think Hopkins suspected a slowed down Calzaghe moving up in weight with busted hands was also easy meat. He was also wrong, and lost.
     
  8. Jester

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    I had Hopkins winning by about two rounds, mainly because the punches he landed were more meaningful. I could see how it could be scored for Calzaghe, but I definitely think that at least a few people who say Calzaghe clearly won do so primarily because of Hopkins complaining.
     
  9. Seamus

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    Im going to agree with Manny Steward and Hopkins fanboy Max Kellerman... it wasn't even that close. Calzaghe going away.
     
  10. Shake

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    Masochist. But I get where you're coming from, in a way.

    I've seen it three times too. No idea why. Just so little and so much going on at the same time.
     
  11. Seamus

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    BHop's pathetic fake low blow baiting pretty much made me a non-fan overnight... after following that guy since 91.
     
  12. HerolGee

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    no a 40something does not suspect a slowed down postprime unbeaten opponent. He expects himself to be slowed down to be the actual factor in the fight.

    if he expects his 40something pace to be better than an unbeaten postprime's pace, he is a fcuking idiot deluded fool to hold such an opinion.
    Are you thus calling Hopkins an idiot deluded fool? DO not try and enforce your views on Hopkins, he is not you and does not think like you.

    but joe knew that waiting till Hopkins was 40smething and now beatable was easy meat, no question. that's WHY he waited for jones and bhop.

    only a nutjob thinks that bhop was waiting for calzgahe to turn 40something so that hecould fight him weakened LOL.
     
  13. HerolGee

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    how dumb an opinion that is, to believe that Hopkins was waiting till he turned 43, before daring to face a man seven years younger, so as to give himself every advantage (!!???!!).

    Stupid idiot opinion. deluded from the truth that joe calzaghe was waiting for legends to turn 40something before daring to face them.
     
  14. Thread Stealer

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    Hopkins landed the cleaner shots to me (I don't buy that Compubox crap) and I scored it for him.

    I had little sympathy for him though. He was an embarassment with his flopping. Like the boxing version of Vlade Divac with flopping, only Hopkins is an ATG and also an extremely dirty fighter.

    Headbutts, low blows, rabbit punches, all kinds of fouls, and then cries and acts when it comes back to him.
     
  15. Bummy Davis

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    Calzage landed more and had the better stamina, B-Hop had to bide time trying to fake a foul and I hate that cheap cheat type of thing. It was an obvious ploy to rest and try and steal....he did gain some rest but I agreed with the HBO crew on the score...Calzage Big