Calzaghe always beats Hopkins at any stage of their careers and here is the evidence

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  1. Imperial1

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    I have to agree Joe's work rate would have been too much for him at any stage ..
     
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  2. trampie

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    If Calzaghe and Hopkins were to have fought back in the day the evidence is strong that Calzaghe would have won even more comfortably than he did when they met during Calzaghe's last year of boxing before retirement.
    Not only was Calzaghe old in boxing terms having been fighting since a young schoolboy but Calzaghe also had brittle hands for the second half of his career, the first half of his career on the way up he was stopping opponents left right and centre.
     
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  3. trampie

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    Yes I think so, Hopkins wants a chess match, he wants time to think, he doesnt want somebody all over him not giving him a second.
     
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  4. thejokerswild

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    Style match ups also tell me Hopkins at any stage would have trouble with Calzaghe. Calzaghes method is intuitive jazzy and very tough wild fast conditoned fighter who loves to go toe to toe.

    Bernard has a lot of trouble trying to dictate the pace and measure out his opponant, even in prime condition. Tricks dont throw Joe off. Calzaghe also seems very confident every fight i've seen, his ego is very strong and Joe never doubt himself.
     
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  5. Imperial1

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    Exactly he likes to control the pace ..But when he can't he has to play catch up ..Look at Hopkins when he fought Jermain Taylor and Jones in their first fights ..Both men out worked Hopkins ..Joe was a volume puncher no way could I see him matching Calzaghe's punch out put at any stage .
     
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  6. trampie

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    When Hopkins cant control the pace he is in trouble.
     
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  7. Kittikasem

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    He would control Calzaghe with ease though. The comments on this thread about Hopkins not being able to deal with Joe's pace betray a real lack of understanding of boxing.

    Bernard Hopkins is not a punch-bag hanging in a gym. Calzaghe would not be able to dictate the pace and pressure Bernard with workrate, because he would be getting ****ing nailed with hard straight right hands on the way in, and he would find B-Hop a more mobile and difficult target to get to. As I keep saying, this would not be a close fight. A peak B-Hop with very good power and excellent stamina would find it easy to nullify Calzaghe's inaccurate flurries, would find it easy to hit him with power counters, and would find it easy to move him around and dictate where the fight takes place.

    A comprehensive outclassing, wide UD12, couple of knockdowns into the bargain due to Calzaghe's wide-open sloppy defence, and the question of who the superior fighter is well and truly answered. :good
     
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  8. trampie

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    It was a close to peak Bhop, Bhop was much closer to peak than Calzaghe was, Calzaghe was on the verge of retirement Bhop wasnt, Bhop had home advantage and home officials, Calzaghe was fighting at a new weight for the first time Bhop wasnt.

    Calzaghe won {by a comfortable margin per the scorecards 116-111 and 115-112}, the evidence suggests that Calzaghe would have won very easily at any stage of their active careers, the further back in time you go the less chance Hopkins has, as Hopkins was closer to prime when they actually fought, Calzaghe was not as close to prime when they fought, Calzaghe effectively retired after Kessler {in his head and in his training}, also when Calzaghe was at his physical peak he had two good hands.
     
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