Calzaghe And Jones The "prime" Issue!

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  1. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    Since "prime" is not based on age alone (see Tyson/Lewis), the claim is worthless.
     
  2. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    hence joe gets none for his win over a "then" shot hopkins!
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    This is very simple.

    Jones vs Hopkins clip:
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    Joe Calzaghe did not fight that Bernard Hopkins and he certainly isn't going to fight that Roy Jones :deal

    He waited and now fought the below Hopkins and will fight the below Jones :good


    Calzaghe vs Hopkins Highlights:
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    Jones vs Tito Highlights:
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  4. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh no it's already started the "oh because Joe beat an old Roy - he beats a young one" - I knew it would. :?
     
  5. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    just pathetic:
    so joe never fought the pavlik type hopkins!!it was the excons identical twin...you know the one who looks old and puts in the inconsistant perormances,not the real one that schooled kelly that guy would take joes head off...its not about joes ability to adapt to a style nor his ability to totally nulify everything bernard had from round 6 onwards,its not even bout the fact that joe would slap hopkins silly all night long if it werent for the ref intervening between rounds and having to pry the welsh lad off him..joe never fought this guy he fought the older less accomplished hologram bernard calls his twin brother!
     
  6. DINAMITA

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    Christ.

    Watch Jones v Tarver II, Jones v Johnson, Jones v Tarver III, Jones v Prince Nobody, Jones v Hanshaw, Jones v Trinidad.

    Then watch Hopkins v Tarver, Hopkins v Wright, Hopkins v Calzaghe, Hopkins v Pavlik.

    Then you work it out.

    Then you log out.
     
  7. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    and while jones is physically past it to a degree, most of his problems were mental.
     
  8. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    please have the deceny to refrian from twisting my words that is a scenario (just like the prime issue)that is ultimately subjective,can people not see the absurdity in these fruitless excuses they prove nothing,
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Yeah I read this exact same post from you in another thread. It wasn't clever in that thread and its downright idiotic and doesn't have anything to do with what I posted. The FACT remains that he is fighting two legends of the sport and 2 of the best fighters in history at stages in their careers where they are completely different fighters as they were in their prime. Are you ****ing blind??? If you cannot watch that clip from the Jones/Hopkins fight and see that those aren't the fighters Calzaghe is fighting your head is up your ass.....or Joes :blood
     
  10. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    you didnt answer my question!

    my logic is fine,i need no equations to mull over.

    did i hurt your feelings,im sensing a little tension in the frontal lobe?
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Jones is shot period. I can't give Calzaghe that much credit for beating him, I'm sorry.
     
  12. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    That made Calzaghe look ****ing stupid.....not Hopkins. Especially since Hopkins bent over from an illegal low blow you ****ing idiot :patsch Calzaghe tries to showboat but he makes himself look like a fool. And I'll say it again, If any version of Joe Calzaghe fought either one of those beasts fromt that first clip I posted he would've been ****ing mauled and embarrassed. :deal
     
  13. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    If you got Joes love plums out of your eyes you would be able to see what is obvious to everyone other than your average rabid JC nuthugger and that is he chose to follow the path of least resistance and fight a Jones who is so done that you could stick a fork in him.
     
  14. DINAMITA

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    No way. Look at Jones fighting Kelly, Woods and Ruiz in '02-'03 (and that wasn't even peak Roy, which IMO was 1994-96), then look at him against Tarver, Johnson, Prince Nobody, Hanshaw and Trinidad. He fights with nowhere near the same speed, aggression, intensity, pace, purpose, power, movement. He doesn't hit as hard, he doesn't move as fast, and his stamina is greatly reduced (see the end of the 5th round of Tarver III - he is GASSED after performing like a shadow of his old self for 1 single round). His problem is that he's SHOT.
     
  15. DINAMITA

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    Watch the fights first, then wisecrack. You clearly haven't seen them all.

    Here they are again so you remember what to look for:

    Watch Jones v Tarver II, Jones v Johnson, Jones v Tarver III, Jones v Prince Nobody, Jones v Hanshaw, Jones v Trinidad.

    Then watch Hopkins v Tarver, Hopkins v Wright, Hopkins v Calzaghe, Hopkins v Pavlik.