Calzaghe And Jones The "prime" Issue!

Every fighter ages differently.

Both guys are past their prime, but Jones is much farther past it.

 

Exactly! Why would you give a guy credit for beating a guy who is so shot its unreal? In a recent edition of Boxing News, Calzaghe said Roy's last three fights have been like the old Roy Jones. What kind of crap is that?

Prime vs Prime, Jones would have beaten Calzaghe, plain & simple. Too fast, too slick for Cazlaghe. Peak Jones was like a peak Calzaghe but better.

There is no significence in this fight whatsoever. It does nothng to enhance Calzaghe's standing in boxing history.

 

No, it's for nostalgic fans like me who are hoping that Roy can turn the clock back and both fighters can deliver a great performance that would be fitting of two of the best 168 pounders to ever lace them up. Yeah it probably won't happen, but if it does, fans are in for a real treat. :thumbsup

Sometimes people are so wrapped up with boxing history it seems like they could do without ever actually watching the fights. How it affects either guy historically doesn't mean it's not worth watching.

 

Wish we could ban morons like this one.atsch

 

Jones is completely shot, Calzaghe is simply past his prime & slowing etc. It's pretty simple.

 

Watch Jones v Tarver II, Jones v Johnson, Jones v Tarver III, Jones v Prince Nobody, Jones v Hanshaw, Jones v Trinidad.

Then watch Hopkins v Tarver, Hopkins v Wright, Hopkins v Calzaghe, Hopkins v Pavlik.

Then work it out for yourself, and there will be no need for a thread about it.

 

Oooh, getting a little touchy now are we?

You're right, my threads are nowhere near as good as this embarrassing pile of dog****! atsch

Go watch them fights.

 

PS: Watch Jones v Tarver II, Jones v Johnson, Jones v Tarver III, Jones v Prince Nobody, Jones v Hanshaw, Jones v Trinidad.

Then watch Hopkins v Tarver, Hopkins v Wright, Hopkins v Calzaghe, Hopkins v Pavlik.

 

I have recently upgraded my estimation of Calzaghe's win over Hopkins from GOOD to GREAT, partly based on Hopkins' subsequent victory over Pavlik.

Clearly, Calzaghe was correct in his assessment of Pavlik not being at his general level.

That being the case, I don't see the problem with the Jones-Calzaghe bout.

After Calzaghe's victory over BHop, it was the fight most mentioned by the commentators. And on a thread poll on ESB a few days later, Calzaghe-Jones was more in demand than Calzaghe-Pavlik.

Jones is definitely past his best, and so is Calzaghe

Jones, moreso.

But Jones is still ranked by all as a top six light-heavywt.

WBC 5

IBF 3

WBA 2

WBO 2

RING 6

And Jones wants the fight.

Both stand to make a lot of money, and why shouldn't they.

It's likely their swansongs.

Does anyone seriously believe Joe would have had trouble with Kelly ?


So the fight with Jones now seems a more serious and better choice.


Prime Roy defeats prime Joe with near certainty.

But those days are gone for both guys.

The ONLY big challenge for Joe would be Dawson, a fight I would love to see and have been asking for since last April.

This one would be iffy for Joe. The 11 year age difference and the elite level of Dawson would put Joe's '0' in some jeopardy, so at this stage, he can opt for the easier (but not easy, Pavlik would be easier) Jones.

And yet, If Calzaghe were to fight and beat Dawson next Spring, judging by the content of this forum, there would be many who would still say:

Who was Dawson ?

Who did he beat ?

So in some sense, Joe can't win with some folks.



It is clear, however, that Joe is riskong more than Roy in November.

No one expects Roy to win.

If he does, he's a genius.

Joe must win or risk serious ridicule.