Calzaghe announces retirement

Who's next though thats the problem .........no-one looks to be in the same class as Calzaghe P4P within Britain.

 

Terry Marsh is British, and was a "World Champion" when he retired.

These guys retired undefeated as well...

Rocky Marciano - World Heavyweight Champion - 49 (43) - 0(0) - 0
Terry Marsh - IBF Light Welterweight Champion - 26 (10) - 0 (0) - 1
Floyd Mayweather Jr. - WBC Super Featherweight, WBC Lightweight Champion, WBC Light Welterweight Champion, IBF Welterweight Champion, WBC Welterweight Champion & WBC Light Middleweight Champion - 39 (25) - 0- 0
Jack McAuliffe - World Lightweight Champion - 34 (23) - 0 (0) - 5
Jimmy Barry - World Paperweight Champion (110lbs) - 58 (3 - 0 (0) - 10
Samson Dutch Boy Gym - WBF Super Flyweight Champion - 43 (36) - 0(0) - 0
Jemal Hinton - WBC Continental Americas Super Bantamweight Campion - 22 (17) - 0 (0) - 0
Ike Ibeabuchi - WBC International Heavyweight Champion - 20 (15) - 0(0) - 0
Ji Won Kim - IBF Super Bantamweight Champion - 16 (7) - 0 (0) - 2
Michael Loewe - WBO Welterweight Champion - 28 (10) - 0(0) - 0
Ricardo Lopez - IBF Light Flyweight Champion - 51 (3 - 0 (0) - 1
Young Mitchell - American Featherweight, Australian Lightweight,PC Welterweight, and PC Middleweight Claimant - 35-0-6 (BoxRec only has 5-0-4)
Edson Pedro Nascimento - UBC Ibero-American Lightweight Champion - 47 (40) - 0(0) - 1
Horace Notice - Commonwealth (BE) Heavyweight Belt-holder - 16 (12) - 0 (0) - 0
Sven Ottke - WBA & IBF Super Middleweight Champion - 34 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
Laszlo Papp - EBU (European) Middleweight Champion - 27 (15) - 0 (0) - 2
Pichit Sitbangprachan IBF Flyweight Champion 24(1 - 0 (0) - 0
Mzukisi Skweyiya - South African Non-White Bantamweight Champion - 21 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
Harry Simon - WBO middle Weight Champion 24 (17) - 0 - 0
Here's some others that were just Undefeated on retirement:
Kirk Daley - (1988-1994) Former Jr. Middleweight Contender - 19 (1 - 0 (0) - 0
Scott Daley - (1986-199 Former Middleweight Contender - 24 (24) - 0(0) - 0
George Kandelaki - (1998-2003) Former Heavyweight Contender - 24 (1 - 0 (0) - 0
Vinny Letizia - (1990-1993) Former Welterweight Contender 16 (14) - 0(0) - 1
Tom Gleason - (1890-1896) Middleweight Champion of North & South Dakota, & Montana - 6-0-3 (2 ND)
Niels H Madsen - (1990-1992) Former Cruiserweight 8(4) - 0 (0) - 0
Agustin Senin - (1967-1972) Spanish & EBU (European) Bantamweight Champion - 42 (21) - 0 (0) - 1
Gurcharan Singh (2001-2004) Former Cruiserweight 17 (10) - 0(0) - 0
Victor Levine 1-0-0 Light Middle
Jimmy Wilde (Moisés Ortenberg) - (1935-1943) Argentina - 37 (15) - 0 (0) - 5
Ricky Womack - (1984-2001) (defeated Holyfield 3 times in the amateur) 13(6) - 0 (0) - 1"
Jemal Hinton (1998 1992) 22 - 0 - 0 (gave up on religious grounds)
Joe Mesi (1997 - 2007) 36 - 0 - 0 Heavy weight
Harold Mann (1963-1967) 10 - 0 - 0 middleweight
Antonio Perugino ( 1997 - 2003) 28 - 0 - 0 WBU middleweight champ
Jimmy Barry (1899-1991) Former World Paperweight Champ 59-0-10
Ed 'Too Tall' Jones (1979-1980) HeavyWeight 6-0-0
Paul Spadafora (1995-2008) 41-0-1 ~ Former IBF lightweight title holder
Lester Jacobs (1989-2001) 43-0-0 World Boxing Federation middleweight Champion

 

Take into account 20 plus defences, first undisputed 168lb title and world titles at 2 weights and that list shrinks a bit...

 

Or just people you have heard of.

Then people you can pick out of a line up.

 

Oh and Micky Rourke

 

Calzaghe is rare career

Maintained his sharp mind

Maintained his physical health

Maintained his Handsome good looks

Maintained his professional unbeaten record

Maintained his money that he made

Joe Calzaghe has been really successful in a very unforgiving business

 

Thats the clincher.

Far bigger name, and people have heard of him and can pick him out of a line-up.

I stand corrected.

 

Who actually cares about number of defences..........

Of a weakass SN title.... when world titles were world titles, i.e. only one of them, then fair enough.

 

Jo has even got everyone forgetting that he spent his entire career, baring just the one fight, fighting under Mr Frank Warren.

 

History will ultimately judge him kindly. His raw statistics alone are impresive:

Beltholder for over 10 years.

First fighter to unify the supermiddleweight division.

Ring magazine champion at supermidleweight and lightheavyweight.

Only the second lineal champion to remain unbeaten and untied (asuming he stays retired)

Like with all retired champions it will take a few years for the merit of some of his best wins to flesh out because those fighters are still active and can still improve their resumes. For example three of Lennox Lewis's victims went on to win titles after he retired.

 

Yes but only one of them was ever recognised as the lineal champion in a given weight class.

Any bum can retire undefeated if they dont fight the best guys in the division. Only two fighters from any weight class have established themselves as a lineal champion and remained undefeated:

1. Rocky Marciano
2. Joe Calzaghe (if he stays retired)

I guess having an Italian name helps.

 

Take the rose tinted spectacles off, he was a Warren protected boxer for the whole of his career. Even the likes of Hatton, who is limited, would still be an undefeated linear champ had he not had the balls to take on someone young and of Floyds calibre (something Joe never did) - by breaking away from Frank.

He's had a good career, and should definitely make the HOF, but there are many, many boxers out there who have had more impressive ones.

 

He has had a very good career no doubt.

I think the problems stem from things like people putting him in the top 5 greatest ever. He really hasn't done enough, imho, to be ranked up there alongside some of the greats of the game. It kind of devalues what they were, and what they did.

 

Mayweather was lineal at 130, 135, 147

And if you want to talk lineal, then please state Calzaghe made ZERO defenses of the lineal/undisputed crown :deal