Thats fine with me as long as no one ever terms Joe as such. **** "Elite"!!!! Whats good for the goose...
Well if you put it like that its a perfectly fine word... Flint, I'm usually pretty good on British totty but I've go no idea on your avatar mate...:huh
Hamed only ever fought one "elite" and so according to PADDY1983 is not World Class And you have to be "elite" to be World Class So that means there are only one or two world class fighters in Hameds era and Hamed wasnt one of them Utter Garbage Calzaghe W UNA 12 Charles Brewer - World Class Win Simple as that Elite fighters are just so rare to fight as there are only a hanndul of them spread out through all divisions
Hey!! I'm not getting into the Joe debate:yikes, I just don't like the word in general or how its usually used on ESB to criticize boxers who have had very good careers.
She use to be on Men and Motors show UK Centefolds A group of strippers in Blackpool Clubs back in the 90's and early 00's
Everybody has their own definition of elite, that is the problem. Maybe we should be more transparent with what we are asking for from an elite. If I rate GazOC as elite by my own standards, if others have slightly higher standards it is no guarantee that 99% of the forum won't disagree. Therein lies the problem.
Thats enough clues mate. Karen Baggoley? I would have got it but your avatar pixelated when I zoomed in.
I think the problem with using the term in respect to Calzaghes career (and is how its generally used "against" boxers) is that it tends to get used to put down wins like Kessler, Mitchel, Brewer etc which, as Flint has said, are very good wins against world class opponents.