Calzaghe aside- who is the GOAT at 168?

the Reid fight was Ottke at the end of his career, but half of the wins? Name them

 

bailey,

I've no problem with that. I think Eubank was past his absolute best, but I give credit to Collins for the wins.

I just can't see how they were two good wins.

Nobody, but you have to put things into context. He retired through injury in the first fight, and then he quit in the second. You make it sound like he was knocked out. When it was a guy who had nothing left, like when Oscar and Tyson couldn't finish their fights against Manny and McBride.

They were decent, but I think other guys should be rated higher.

We don't need to argue the Toney and Eubank wins again. But I think that Roy did more than Collins at the weight. Like Collins, Roy didn't have many fights at the weight. But absolutely easy wins over Toney, Malinga, and Lucas etc, give him the edge in my opinion.

With regards to Ward, I don't agree. I think that Froch is/was on the same level as the version of Eubank who Collins fought. I also believe that both Froch and Kessler were better than the versions of Benn that Collins fought.

 

Rjj

 

Ward> Calzaghe. FAILEY do your thing LOL

 

I'm waiting Failey

 

A.Ward is already closing in, probably will surpass Calzaghe by the end of his career.

 

Surpass? lol He doens't wait til fighters turn 40 to fight them. Ward is easily better now.

 

Eubank was the greatest super-middleweight, including Calzaghe, including Jones. No question.

 

It scares me that you are a female lol