Calzaghe aside- who is the GOAT at 168?

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  1. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :nod Correct score. It was impossible to separate them.
     
  2. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Without the KDs and point deductions his score would be 119-118 Collazo so to be fair he was very close to getting it right.
     
  3. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Punches landed is not the same thing as punches thrown and punches thrown is much easier to track with accuracy.

    Please provide me with a link where that information is tracked. It doesn't count for someone to say "I think he's throwing 100 punches per round". I could say that about any fight but it wouldn't make it true.
     
  4. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like I said, I am not talking about punches landed, only punches thrown...

    In the Vitali fights that you say he threw 100 punches per round were they tracking the punches he threw per round or was it his guess?
     
  5. Ducklerr

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    If it is a statistic they were keeping track of then it might be relevant. If it is a statistic they made up then obviously it would not. For the Arreola and Peter fights that you mentioned compubox had Vitali throwing 80 punches/round over 10 rounds and 73 punches/round over 8 rounds against Peter. So you believe that compubox missed 200 punches that Vitali threw against Arreola and 215 against Peter? Seems very unlikely.

    As for his KO% you are wrong again. I assume you are making the common mistake of calculating KO% as the number of KOs out of the number of wins. In reality, it is calculated by number of KOs out of total fights. Otherwise a fighter with a 1-250-0 (1KO) record would have a 100% knockout ratio. After the Byrd fight Vitali's KO% was 96.5%. He had a decision in his next fight and it fell to 93%. He got I back up to 94% before the Lewis fight. After Lewis it fell to 91% and he never got It above 92.5% again in his career. It fell to 90% after the KJ fight then down to 88% after the Briggs fight and finally down to 87% after Chisora. So at the age of 40 his KO% was actually around 87 or 88%.
     
  6. Super Hans

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    Ra's is James DeGale still outside the top 15 of current Super Middleweights?
     
  7. yeyo monster

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    roy jones at 168 was at his best!! best fighter at the weight ever
     
  8. Super Hans

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    Don't forget, Ward will be back and they may rate him at 168....
     
  9. DirtyDan

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    It's hard to say. The SMW division has always been a joke where 2nd tier LHW's would drain down because the talent above was too much.

    I'd say Slappy is number 1, with Been being number 2 and Eubank being a close 3.
     
  10. HerolGee

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    if calzaghes bum is sore thenyou should leave it alone for once.
     
  11. HerolGee

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    failey, no more avoiding the question - will you tell me who eric is, 7th time of asking.

    you appear tobe asking me in return to tell you who cowardzaghe off youtube is - how would I know this? obviously you are stalling.
     
  12. Ducklerr

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    My all time favorite scorecard
     
  13. Ducklerr

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    for those who don’t recall, Khan scored 3 knockdowns and both fighters had a point deducted. That means that without the extra points that 117-115 card for Khan would have been 119-118 for Collazo. One of the truly unique cards of all time. Especially when you consider the consensus was 119-104 or 118-105 Khan.
     
  14. VG_Addict

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    Roy Jones Jr isn't the GOAT at 168. Other than his amazing win over Toney, his resume at SMW is weak.