Calzaghe aside- who is the GOAT at 168?

Yeah he is a bit of a joke and a stalker.
He entered into debate with me some years ago, and didnt have an answer to any point raised and went away feeling silly. Since then he wont enter into a debate or answer any counters or question and bumps old threads of mine making comments.
It shows how badly he was owned and how it still haunts him

 

I doubt it, as Calzaghe had so many names on his resume. The good thing now is that the division is more known.
Consider how a fighter like Andre Dirrell is well known but not done as much as M Veit, who I would have favoured to have beaten him.

Calzaghe cleaned out the SMW division.
Ward has yet to fight a top undefeated SMW or top prime SMW and basically beat a faded fighter that Calzaghe had already beaten in Kessler, who beat Froch, who beat Bute, but not once did Ward beat any when prime or undefeated.

 

Well RJJ would be an obvious choice, my favourite ever fighter Nigel Benn is in there, Chrith Eubanks was amazing too.

But for me, for a short period of time, in peak fitness, in his prime and his head screwed on right i think James Tony at 168 was the best James Tony and was unstoppable. Every aspect of his game looked as good as it can be.

I still think had Gerrald McClellan had a career at this weight we would be seeing his name on that list. He was guna be a monster. Unfortunatly we know what happened to him.

 

What many hate to acknowledge is that when Calzaghe beat Hopkins, Hopkins was having arguably his most impressive wins and there was around 7 years difference between them.
When Ward beat Froch. Froch was coming off a Mdec over old, faded, boiled down G Johnson and there was around 8 years difference between them.

 

Exactly

 

What fighters of 40 and over did Calzaghe fight?

How old was Calzaghe himself when he fought these fighters and at what stage of his career was he?

Who did Calzaghe wait to fight when over 40, as we know Calzaghe had tried to make the Hopkins fight years previously, only for Hopkins to have a change of decision. So who did he wait for?



This is why Auracle doesnt enter into debate and why he hides.
He will duck these questions

 

Good post, but fanboys will not want to read that and try and rewrite history and forget that after all of what you wrote Hopkins went on to beat undefeated LHW champ Cloud and LHW champ Shumenov

 

Getting back to the thread
After Calzaghe, would go

2. Eubank
3. Ottke

 

simply no i can see what your doing here joe beat eubank and was a better fighter than ottke :-verysad

ottke was and is a fu cking joke in the boxing world

eubank was finished imo from the watson fight never the same demeanour about him :bart

your full of agendas bailey

joes bitterness is there for all to see

 

yeah ok

just because you claim it dont make it true

you on about joe had to move up joe was killing himself to make 168 fact he was doing a khan hiding down in the lower division

killing himself to make weight and was forced to fight off both promoter and father , need home advantage for 95% of his fights and the list of bums on there is a fooking joke

plenty of middleweights on his record :deal :hi: good day fu ck wit