Calzaghe: Boxing is dying!

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Calzaghe: Boxing is dying!
    Despite the fact that the Manny Pacquiao-Oscar De La Hoya fight generated 1.25 million pay-per-view buys, light heavyweight superstar Joe Calzaghe says the sweet science is nearing a ten count. "I think boxing is a dying sport," Calzaghe told PA Sport. "Globally - in America for instance - you've got UFC, which has taken a lot off boxing business-wise. There is too much politics in boxing. Too many belts and too many champions, which dilutes real champions like myself. There are four world champions in each division and it's bad because there are no stars any more. It's a big problem." Calzaghe still has not made a decision as to whether or not he will fight again, but he did say, "I'm glad I'm ending my career and not starting it because I don't think it's going to be that great in the future." The paltry numbers from Calzaghe's self-promoted PPV clash with Roy Jones Jr. may have contributed to Joe's gloomy analysis. That bout generated about 225,000 buys, far below expectations



    What Joe fails to realise is:

    1) He could have actually done with a promoter for their fight
    2) Fans are clearly not as stupid as he thinks they are. We only have to look at the numbers for Pac vs Oscar as proof.

    3) He`s got some balls complaining about the plethora of belts when his hid behind the WBO for the best part of his career and had no interest in unifying.

    4) If he put his mitts where his mouth was we`d have the competitive bouts that boxing sorely needs. He could have fought Tarver Dawson Pavlik Taylor etc in bouts that would have been far better for boxing than watching him make easy money lining his own pockets and screwing the paying fans yet again. Too bad Joe has realised that us Fans are far smarter than his willing to credit us for.
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  2. I agree Joe needed a promoter, he was foolish to think he could go all DLH and generate massive buys.

    We'll never know the full extent of whether Joe wanted unification fights or not over the years, but his record will always show that he held the WBO, WBC, IBF, WBA and Ring Magazine Super Middleweight Titles, and won his unification fights against younger, credible fighters (note: Lacy was DEEMED credible at the time).

    I agree though it does seem sometimes Joe speaks without thinking.
     
  3. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Kessler unified the WBC and WBA. Joe picked those up as a result. Lacy won the vacant IBF and won it as a result of beating him. Great result no question about that. BUT Joe never had ANY interest in unifying. Things went well for him after beating Lacy as Lacy was an overhyped US Olympian. If that unification never happened Joe would still be making easy money off the WBO. Neither he nor Warren were interested in unifications and Warren didnt really have the economic clout to make them happen.
     
  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Great post mate.
     
  5. LB3000

    LB3000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well said scurla.
     
  6. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    He had no Interest In unifying yet unified his WBO with Lacy's IBF. Still holding his WBO he won Kessler's two.

    Kessler might of not unified his two If It wasn't for the Influence of Calzaghe Vs Lacy and both Kessler and Lacy were wanting to Impress to get a fight with Joe as they saw him as the man of the division.

    You mentio Tarver, Pavlik and Taylor but Joe has beaten the man who beat Tarver and Pavlik and Pavlik beat Taylor. Not only that he bared humped Benard too.
     
  7. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    And look how quickly Joe gave up the IBF? He had no intention of holding the belts for a long period of time or a long tenure as a unified champ. It was merely a convenience. Do NOTE though Max both times those bouts happened it was because Kessler and Lacy wanted to fight Joe. NOT the other way around.
     
  8. gutto

    gutto Guest

    Its sad to here Joe C talking that way about boxing I love to watch the ufc but boxing is and allways we be my nuber 1 sport. Boxing is boxing and ufc is ufc.
    If Joe is bothered a bout boxing its a shame he dident get off his arse and made some of the better fights for him self.
    More bollocks from Joe C
    I THINK THERE HAS BEEN SOME GREAT FIGHTS THE LAST TWO YEARS IMO THE BEST ITS BEEN IN A WHILE.
    I hope Joe C does call it a day and then we will only have to listen to Enzos **** 2 Calzaghes are more than I can take

    PS Scurla could not agreemore with your post
     
  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Calzaghe was forced into it at gunpoint?

    Boxing matches generally happen when the two fighters want to fight each other. Or at least when they don't have any better options.

    It should be noted that Calzaghe gave up the IBF title in the interest of gaining some US TV exposure and attracting some higher profile fights, rather than defend against Stieglitz who HBO had no interest in.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Yeah his bout with Manfredo was definitely high profile. I mean why retain a unified title when you can the fight looser from the Contender series. :roll:
     
  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    If Calzaghe had bummed off HBO and fought Stieglitz (much though you apparantly would have excepted that from Calzaghe's legacy of defences against Eurobums), do you think HBO would have shown Calzaghe v Kessler? Do you think the Hopkins fight would still have happened?

    Hmm, Stieglitz or Hopkins?

    Calzaghe did, when IBF Champion, exactly what you advocate he should have done when WBO Champion - forget the pointless defences (you're not really arguing that Stieglitz would have been a fight to get excited about, right?) and chase the big fights, and you're still criticising him for it.
     
  12. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    it doesnt help when you have one of the best fighters in the world fighting a guy who is years past it and it was one of the most anticipated fights of the year which turned out to be a stinker

    retire joe you dick
     
  13. Cobbler

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    Should also point out that Calzaghe gave an interview with the Press Association which has been reported in many places.

    His comments did not at any point mention either his own PPV figures, or the PPV figures for De La Hoya v Pacquiao.

    All mention of those fights in the article quoted in the OP is editorialising by the journalist who wrote the article. It is not remotely clear from reading his actual comments that that was even in his mind at all.
     
  14. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    I think he speaks a lot of home truths. Sure there have been some great fights recently, but the point is, name one up-and-coming genuine world class American star.

    Hmmm, Chad Dawson maybe. That's about it. You can forget Pavlik, he was brutally exposed.

    10-15 years ago your average punter on the street would know the big boxers out there, real household names like Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Prince Nazeem Hamed, Evander Holyfield, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn. Everyone knew who these people were.

    I doubt if you stopped some housewife on the street and you asked her who Joe Calzaghe is you would get a positive response. That's a sad state of affairs for the sport.
     
  15. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Thats because those names were on TERRESTRIAL TV. No TV fighters means NO household names.