Calzaghe can't punch properly

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Leave that with me... I'll investigate when I get a chance,
     
  2. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Simple question... Do you think that Joe Calzaghe has less than average punch power? The options are YES or NO.
     
  3. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dinamita started playing the Yes/NO game five years ago and refuses to quit first
     
  4. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Just trying to establish what class of ****** he is so that I can play at his level.
     
  5. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    In the pro's never, in the amateurs constantly.
     
  6. steveedster

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    Yes I totally agree with this. Ask yourself... what is Joe's opponent doing when he is flurrying....nothing! Also in for example a 6 punch flurry, he will generally put in one hard punch.. in the mean time his opponent has done nothing but try and cover up.

    Poeple must realise that if Joe only 'slapped' then any decent fighter would just walk through these slaps and knock him out.... this does not happen for a very good reason. People who have a lot of ring time like myself will understand this, others may not. :good
     
  7. DINAMITA

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    YES. At this current point in time at light-heavyweight, I think Calzaghe has less than average punching power. An average light-heavyweight would have knocked out Roy Jones (or at least floored him, at least once! Or surely to Christ they would've even seriously and visibly staggered him!!!!!) had they landed hundreds of clean shots to his face and head like Joe did. Tarver and Johnson are good light-heavyweights with decent punching power, and they had Roy on ***** Street with single shots. Your bias is blinding you, the evidence is clear and concrete. Joe's punching power has evaporated over the last few years. Enjoy your denial. :good
     
  8. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Thank you for answering. ;)
     

  9. Joe has always had super middleweight power. Well, Laila Ali super middleweight power anyway. <g>


    Very kindly taking time out from training for the Walters fight to speak with this writer (James Slater) earlier today, (Byron) Mitchell spoke about his most famous fights and his hopes for the future..

    Here are Byron's answers to my questions.

    J.S: I've got to talk about the incredible fight you had with Joe Calzaghe. What are your memories of that fight - a classic short war that was compared to Hagler-Hearns?

    B.M: I went into that fight with a lot of animosity. I didn't really want to take that fight. I didn't want it at the time. I had personal issues that handicapped me from being at my best. But I had to take the fight, I was kind of forced into it.


    J.S: Joe Calzaghe says that was the hardest he's ever been hit, when you became the first man to floor him. Was the fight stopped too soon, do you think?

    B.M: Yes, I think it was premature. I think they'd [Calzaghe's team] had seen a tape of my fight with Julio Cesar Green where I was down twice in the 1st, but came back to stop him (in the 4th round). I think they knew how dangerous I was. It was definitely a premature stoppage. But I also know what I did wrong in that fight. Day in day out today, when I'm training for a fight, I go over that fight in my mind. I will do so until I finally retire. I would love another go at him, but I know that's not gonna happen (laughs).

    J.S: You never know. Joe is looking at having a farewell fight in Cardiff, Wales. If you were to get a few wins under you belt, he might look at a rematch. The first fight was so good after all.

    B.M: Well, I would gladly welcome that. But he's a ***** so I really doubt it. Maybe if I get knocked out he'll take a chance.

    J.S: To this day, some people refer to Calzaghe as a slapper. Rate his power for us, Byron.

    B.M: Joe has respectable power. His speed was what caught me off guard. He was a lot faster than I thought he would be. He does throw amateurish punches. They're borderline slaps. I do give him some credit, not a lot, but a little. He basically tries to overwhelm his opponents. I'd say he has enough power to make you respect him.
     
  10. debaser

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    He's just not being honest with himself. I was at that fight and nobody apart from the American broadcasters were complaining about the stoppage. Most tellingly, Mitchell himself wasn't complaining in the immediate aftermath. He got hit with several unanswered shots, wasn't protecting himself adequately and needed the ref to step in. He WAS hurt, no doubt about it. If you dispute this I advise you to go back and look at the tape, Mitchell was rocked to the bootlaces after the knockdown and never properly recovered. Arguably a slightly premature stoppage, with arguable being the imperative word. Good call in my opinion and most at ringside that night.
     
  11. Bigcat

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    If Joseph doesn't punch properly, then why does he stop or damage a whole lot of his world class opponents.... His hands seem to look like he slaps , but his wrist is turned slightly so its a very solid shot that he lands inside of a semingly slapping glove.. just look at mister Lacy's face after their encounter........ and at Mitchell too....... and Roy, he is a solid puncher.. This is a very badly thought out argument..
     
  12. Guy

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    Mitchell WAS in trouble i've watched it a few times.....
     
  13. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    It's not just about Mitchell being in trouble. He was certainly very dazed and stung but could conceivably have carried on. However referees are entitled to stop the fight at any time if the opponent is not throwing any punches back. Mitchell was dazed, staggering around and getting hit without punching back and when he flopped against the ropes backwards the ref probably just thought it was a correct time to call the stoppage. A combination of being hurt, dazed, taking too many shots, being off balance and not throwing back.

    About Calzaghe not punching properly.....his jab, straight left and right to the body are 95% textbook. It's when he starts windmilling his speed hooks from left to right when it starts to look ugly and amateur.

    Still feel he was a good puncher until around 2004, just not a one punch KO boxer.