Calzaghe fought bums for the most part of his career but it's not his fault....

Shut the **** up, it's not even funny anymore. Calzaghe is a ****en joke, he's not even close to an ATG. Shut your mouth cause **** keeps coming out.

Calzaghe would never have faced prime Jones, he was clearly one of the most protected fighters ever.

Look at this, look how Calzaghe's resume gets destroyed by Jones.



CALZAGHE


Chris Eubank

Robin Reid

Richie Woodhall

Omar Sheika

Charles Brewer

Byron Mitchell

Jeff Lacy

Mikkel Kessler

Bernard Hopkins (Light Heavyweight, 43 years old)

Roy Jones (Light Heavyweight, 40 years old)




JONES


Jorge Vaca (Middleweight)

Jorge Castro (Middleweight)

Bernard Hopkins (Middleweight)

Thulani Malinga (Super Middleweight)

James Toney (Super Middleweight)

Thomas Tate (Middleweight)

Vinny Pazienza (Super Middleweight)

Tony Thornton (Super Middleweight)

Merqui Sosa (Light Heavyweight)

Mike McCallum (Light Heavyweight, 40 years old)

Montell Griffin (Light Heavyweight)

Virgil Hill (Light Heavyweight)

Reggie Johnson (Light Heavyweight)

Eric Harding (Light Heavyweight)

Julio Cesar Gonzalez (Light Heavyweight)

Clinton Woods (Light Heavyweight)

John Ruiz (Heavyweight)

Antonio Tarver (Light Heavyweight)

 

I would not class Reid, Woodhall, Eubank, Charles Brewer, Byron Mitchell, Kessler, Hopkins and Jones as bums, everyone with the exception of brewer was a world champion

 

I do not care who was responsible for Calzaghe fighting bums (I'm not going to split hairs over 2-3 worthy opponents he really had). More important thing is that his opposition is indeed weak for someone who is supposed to be an ATG (according to his fans at least).

BTW, I wouldn't give Calzaghe much credit for Reid either as this SD was lucky at least. Jones? He lost already to Tarver (2x) and Johnson in a fashion that made it clear he is no longer a fighter he used to be. Calzaghe was lucky to catch him a bit earlier than Green.

 

apologies for the delayed response.

asked & answered dickwad. can you read?

yeah...asked & answered again. is this a **** take?

the only "best" kessler traveled to fight was a 35 year old calzaghe who had lost his power, had brittle hands & was a speedy fighter who wasn't as quick as he was in his prime. ward was a prospect, mundine was nothing special & ponce was a bum. & that is EVERY fight kessler travelled for. shut up with your bull****, you ******. :thumbsup

 

I could break that apart but will sit smugly in the knowledge that Calzaghe has Jones name on his win resume

 

That is absolutely true,because JC easily beat Jones.HOWEVER,it's also the same Jones that JC admitted was shot years before the fight took place in JC's autobiography and at least one other time on record.And then when the promotion of the fight took place as JC and Jones were the promoters(I personally think that's a fantastic idea as the boxers are the ones putting their asses on the line,not the promoters,so the boxers are the ones that should be getting all of the money),JC lied by saying that Jones was still a terrific fighter.So,considering Joe's outright lying and his obvious lack of credibility,it would have been far more appropriate for you to have "broken that apart" in the first place.

 

Did Jones decline coincided with the balco scandal ?, was that just coincidence ?, was Jones as good after he was caught with a performance enhacing drug in his system ?.

 

That's ok. Your reply wasn't worth waiting for.

Namecalling eh?

Your answer to why RJJ wasn't available was

That's not an answer. You need to tell why he wasn't a viable option.

Your answer to was:

Nothing but opinions and claims. No substance or source. An Ottke fan could say the exact same thing about Calzaghe as long as there's no evidence of ducking posted.



I think it's plain to see that you are nothing but a useless troll. :nut

 

& you call me a troll?
atsch

sadly...you have just proved you can't read.

my response actually was:

someone else posted:

my response was:

seeing as how you either can't read or are just ignoring what i'm saying...& you have chosen not to back up your (completely disproved) claims of "kessler travelling to fight the best unlike calzaghe"...i think it is clear that you are the troll...& as such you should **** off with your bull**** you mentally challenged danish ****nuckle. :hi:

 

Weather Calzaghe lied or not, he was Ring LHW champ and he defended against the Ring #6 LHW in the world after just beating The Ring #1. It was a fight that Jones didnt want years ago, saying he was looking at moving down to SMW for the fight and not doing it, so when Joe moved up he beat him.
As said before people say many different things at different times, but at the time of the fight there were many predicting Jones to win and Calzaghe beat him :good

 

Ring #6 was shot

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi6sW4P5wJI[/ame]

 

Then that must tell you that Hopkins avoided Jones for a long time.
Still YOU picked Jones so cant have thought he was that shot when making YOUR prediction or you thought that Calzaghe was further shot.

It was at the time one of the biggest fights of the year and a bigger event that Hopkins vs Pavlik, but people try and remember things different to how they were.
Hindsight is one thing, but look at the facts, the Ring LHW champ beat The Ring #6 in a fight many expected him to lose

Bernard Hopkins- Former two-division world champion
Fought Joe Calzaghe on April 19, 2008 and lost by split decision
Fought Roy Jones Jr. May 22, 1993 and lost by unanimous decision

“Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power.”

Lennox Lewis- Former heavyweight champion

"Jones has unbelievable speed and Calzaghe's never fought anyone like him. Jones likes it when his opponent comes to him and unfortunately for Calzaghe, that's exactly what he does; comes to his opponent and is right in their face. I pick Jones on points, but I think it’ll be a very close fight."

Jeff Lacy- Former IBF super middleweight champion

Fought Joe Calzaghe March 4, 2006 and lost by unanimous decision

“It’s going to be a hard fight to pick. If Jones doesn't stay on the ropes and give Calzaghe angles and lots of movement I'm going to go with Jones by decision. Roy can't stay on the ropes and give Joe the chance to throw his slapping punches. This is a great fight for Jones to win and setup a big money fight again with Hopkins!”

Glen Johnson- Former IBF, IBO and Ring Magazine light heavyweight champion

Fought Roy Jones September 25, 2004 and won by KO in 9th round

“Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roy’s will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones’ hard-hitting punches make the difference.”

Vernon Forrest - WBC welterweight champion

“Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision.”

Paulie Malignaggi- Former IBF junior welterweight champion.

"It's a hard fight to pick. I thought Calzaghe at first because, but maybe he's too much for Roy right now. But based on what Joe just said about the three Brits beating the three Americans (Calzaghe-Jones, Hatton-Malignaggi, Haye-Barrett), I'm pulling Roy home.....Jones by decision."

Winky Wright- Former world junior middleweight champion

“I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghe’s and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think its Calzaghe late in the fight.”

Dan Rafael- ESPN.com

“Although Calzaghe is the favorite, I think Jones' style and speed -- he's still fast -- are going to give him problems. I think it will be a tough, close fight but I'm going with the upset special. I like Jones to pull it out on a close decision.”

Gordon Marino- Wall Street Journal

”Jones over Calzaghe. This is a fascinating fight. Jones is still quick and with his awkward style and dangerous punching power is able to freeze very active opponents like Calzaghe. I'm picking Jones by a decision.”

Tim Smith- New York Daily News

“Roy Jones has good power and I think that will offset the volume of punches that Calzaghe throws. Calzaghe has a good chin so I don't see him getting knocked out. I like Jones in a decision.”

Franklin McNeil- Newark Star Ledger

“On paper, Calzaghe should not have much difficulty getting by Jones. Calzaghe is a southpaw, and Jones has had his most difficult outings against non-orthodox fighters. And though each man has quite a few miles on his tires, Jones has logged a bit more. The physical edge goes to Calzaghe, but stylistically Jones’ constant movement could prove to be beneficial. If Jones can control the pace, make Calzaghe miss, score with counter shots and his stamina holds up, he will win. Jones wins by decision.”

Bobby Cassidy- Newsday

“I like Roy Jones in the 11th round TKO. Calzaghe does not have the power to keep Jones honest. I think by the second half of the fight Jones will be picking him a part. Calzaghe looked so good against Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the firepower to slow him down. But Jones has both speed and power. In other fights, Calzaghe has been able to adjust to one of those assets; he won't be able to adjust to both, especially from a fighter like Jones.”



There are were more predictions for Jones against Calzaghe, that picked Jones as a winner.
Although there were many that also picked for Calzaghe the poll on Bunces boxing was said 60% in favour of Jones.

 

Hopkins wasnt ducking RJJ

Here is the evidence, they both had disagreement on the money split:-

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJbOw_5DPiE[/ame]

Also Hopkins didnt retire on a shot jones jr, he lost to RJJ before and can have a rematch if he wants.

Calzaghe didnt want a rematch with Hopkins in Cardiff after Hopkins called for it.

Calzaghe's son watched some old RJJ videos on youtube and said to his dad he is scared that Jones Jr might win. Then Calzaghe said to his son dont worry, RJJ is shot.

Also Calzaghe called RJJ shot in his book few years back.

All those people were just hyping up a fight, and watched the 24/7 and wanted Calzaghe to lose just like me.

 

So at the time Jones was the premier man and Hopkins who lost to Jones wanted 50% to fight a fighter who had beaten him and if he didnt get it he wouldnt fight, even though Hopkins would be getting a far bigger payday than normal and always wanted the big pay days, but refused to fight Jones for less than half but would fight De La Hoya .

Accept your double standards again, Hopkins ducked Jones in his prime like he did Calzaghe and wouldnt fight them until he had the advantages

 

Hopkins was recognised as P4P #1 in 2002, and RJJ was #2.

Hopkins asked for 50-50, and he was in the position to do so.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJbOw_5DPiE[/ame]

You are the first and only person that thinks Hopkins ducked RJJ.


Calzaghe is the one that blatantly ducked RJJ by asking for the crown jewels. Hopkins just asked for a 50-50 split.

De la Hoya and Hopkins made big boy money, something Calzaghe never did with Frank Warren