Calzaghe gaining these wins...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Jan 29, 2008.


  1. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Retireing undefeated is a nice plan, but a win over Hopkins is not quite a sure thing. Benard is this generations Archie Moore. Truth is , I can't even figure out what makes Joe so successful . He seems wide open much of the time , flails away with his head in the air, and doesn't seem particularly fast or powerful. You can't argue with success however, and the look of total confusion on the faces of formidable fighters like Lacy and Kessler is proof of Calzaghes effectiveness.But if anyone can exploit Joe's defects , as subtle as they may be, its Hopkins. Tight defense, straight , short punches , good timing, and a respectful punch are the keys to beating Joe, and these are Benards strenghts. Lacy was just a puncher, and Kessler doesn't have Hopkins' savvy and experience. I wouldn't rent the hall for Joes undefeated retirement party just yet.
     
  2. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some interesting points. Poor punching technique (imo) has caused hand injuries and reduced his power. He has a tendency to fall in over balance sometimes as well, due I think to an overeagerness to attack. Kesslers counters punished him for that, forcing him to box more behind his jab which turned the fight around. He's a boxer with the mindset of a brawler which often makes fights that should be easy very difficult.
    The Charles Brewer fight is a good example. Joes dumb tactics made for a great scrap.
    How you can say he's not particularly fast is mystifying however. He's sl;ower than he was 5 years ago but still has excellent hand speed.
     
  3. toffeejack

    toffeejack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Easily, and nobody could deny he would go down as the best british boxer of all time if he manages that.
     
  4. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets say Joe beats Hopkins, Chad beats Johnson and Tarver beats Woods.

    Joe should then fight RJJ.

    Chad should fight Tarver.

    The winners then meet in an 'instant legend' match (my £$£ is on JC - CD).

    Cannot fail can it ??
     
  5. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    why on earth does he need dawson??? ha you jokers
     
  6. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    PLUS.....He already said this is his last but one fight and is only looking for one more after Hopkins so all this talk is pointless
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Of the modern era, inarguably.
     
  8. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    im proud of u man,u put in a well constructed thought wirthout hating on anybody.:D :D
     
  9. Steve Fox

    Steve Fox Guest

    Bollocks.
     
  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe is the best of this and all generations.

    Those three fights have no bearing on anything.

    What is, is.
     
  11. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Don't kid yourself, a win against B-Hop is bigger than all of the others. A win against all of them would get my vote for him being one of the best.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    If he won all 3 of those fights, he may crack the top 10 of his generation.
     
  13. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    I agree, B-Hop is the best when it comes to making a fighter fight his fight.
     
  14. TFFP

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    Yes, it would

    And yes, he will. As Floyd would say "None of those guys are on his level"
     
  15. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What is your definition of "this generation"??If you are talking post SRL, I would say a emphatic no