Calzaghe interview and work-out in America

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  1. Tettsuo

    Tettsuo Active Member Full Member

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    That does make a bit of sense. :lol:
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Don't be envious, now, Dorf...Some people are very bad because they have been in a very bad place; others are very good because they have been in a very good place:

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    You speak as if good has to lose to evil!:bart

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  3. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Did you see that fight ... B-Hop turned it on down the stretch and it was JT that faded, which in turn caused the controversay.

    I never seen B-Hop fade late in fights ... he's always at his best ... he doesn't do **** early on and around the mid-rounds is when he turns it up.
     
  4. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :nut

    :lol:

    Freakin' fantastic! Although, I'm a Biochemist but have no idea what your point is :lol:
     
  5. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bad feeling? Can you elaborate?

    I have a few concerns about this fight myself:

    1. The ref will favour Hopkins and give him every advantage. For example, I can see Calzaghe getting Hopkins in trouble and the ref stopping the action for a bogus reason to give BHop a breather.

    I think Calzaghe will cope with any ref. interventions and still batter Hopkins.

    2. Calzaghe will damage a hand on Hopkins hard skull using his increased power at light-heavyweight. This is my main concern. Look for Calzaghe to get over eager and land a hard, awkward punch in round 3 or 4. His dream will turn to a nightmare at that point as he attempts to beat Hopkins with one good hand.

    3. Calzaghe will be a clear winner on points but we'll have a Lewis-Holyfield I type draw situation. Or worse, Hopkins will be awarded a SD.
     
  6. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am envious if those wonderful landscapes are in South Wales, Dec. Actually I made up my mind about where to go in my next holydays and when there's some money left b.c. we're poor around here in Annexia, you know? We can't afford to go to Vegas April 19th. :good

    Good and Evil, Saint George and the Dragon, what da **** r u talkin about mate? Bernard was born in the stinkin Sharpnack St in Germantown and Joe in a ****in boat in his way from Sassani to Bedford! They were both underpriviliged children... Enzo was playin the guitar when he met Jacqueline and Bernard was into that gang bangin **** in the projects... There is no such thing as good and evil like in Star Wars or in the Old Testament and if there is, it's behind the nine hundred million dollars Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino or the 800 million pounds New Wembley Stadium, the goodfellas and the thousands of junkies and hoes that have to die for them. I'm just sayin that Hopkins had to do time and survive in jail and in the streets... How tough has Joe proven to be? - against his friend Richie or against Brewer & Mitchell with thousands behind him? Against Dane Kessler with that clean, unmarked face of his? Man, even Robin Reid, Rick Thornberry and Jeff Lacy proved to be tougher than he is - and that's because they took punches in the face and still moved forward. Calzaghe has everything to win against people because he has boxing skills, not because he is a tough SOB like Hatton is or Henry Cooper was... I want to see where Calzaghe goes when the going gets tough - actually I know where he's going... He's going to complain to the referee, that's what! Peace...
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol:

    I agree; there's no good and evil here...

    ...but then, it wasn't ME who suggested Bhops would have an advantage because he was in prison and had a hard life; it was YOU!:bart

    And just because you haven't survived the mean streets, it doesn't mean you cannot beat a toughster in a boxing match!;)
     
  8. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    You're underestimating Calzaghe's heart.
     
  9. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know he has tons of fighting heart and can go kamizake in there... Not that that's a good idea, but he can go for broke... I just sad that he will not be able to take the rough stuff b.c. he grapples ya, leans his head all over ya, hits ya down there on the blind side of the ref, and does a lot of other dirty things in there... Calzaghe can only get tired and absolutely annoyed with it - he can only complain to the ref like he did for the Salem and the Bika fights... And I'm not sure Cortez does anything about it b.c. Hatton was holding Floyd's head under a lock and about to hit him with the other hand when J Cortez called them aside the first time in the 2nd round, and Floyd was already sticking his forearm on poor ole Ricky's throat when J Cortez called them for a 2nd time... Hopkins does it much better and his game is exactly what Floyd's was, hits a counter-shot and ties you up, and see what Cortez had to say about Floyd last December - absolutely nothing.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    You are underestimating Calzaghe's control over the dark stuff...:nono
     
  11. Nalian

    Nalian Formerly "yesihavearm" Full Member

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    Im a big Calzaghe fan so im going to notice the subtle differences.

    One not so subtle difference is that Joe is hitting SO much harder that ive seen him before.

    Combination of higher weight and not drained AND something that I feel has been overlooked - Joe's hands have been fine now for nearly 10months. Looks like those Grant gloves he got customised have really done the trick.

    More power + Retainage of speed + Solid hands = bye bye hopkins im afraid
     
  12. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And he has an advantage right there. He has deep within him the roughness to give em hell and believe me it's a sickening thing ( Allen threw himself three times to the floor in round 4 of the rematch, Echols picked him up and slammed him against the corner, Holmes wanted him disqualified by the 11th due to low blows, Hoya gave up of course, Tarver and Buddy wanted only to last the distance by the eleventh, Winky was frustrated and disorganized as I have never seen him before). Obviously this has to do with his life experience and mental toughness built along the way.

    Calzaghe can win a boxing fight but not if he gets his nose broken and blood seeping out and streaming down his face and into his eyes. Heart and adrenaline cannot sustain him to outbox Hopkins in that situation because he has never been in that kind of situations... And no, the little cut on the Bika fight or the knockdown in the Mitchell fight do not count. This is legalized fighting with techniques, rules, protections, gloves and officials but it is essentially a fight, a blood sport where the mean, toughest guys normally wins. And even if you go to strategy, how many times have you seen a soccer team get surprised by unexpected, counter-attacks from ultra-defensive teams? Probably too many times... They get surprised because they don't have time to counter-move to the others' counter-moves...
     
  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Well, sure, I agree....if Hopkins is allowed to get away with murder whilst Calzaghe isn't, of course he'll lose. But so would anyone, including a prime Mike Tyson! What is your point?:huh

    What you are getting wrong, again, is you are underestimating Calzaghe. You have him as this perfect golden boy who always plays by the rules and doesn't have the will to win/ to do whatever it takes to win.

    You're wrong, buddy!:yep
     
  14. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins does it within the boundaries of legalized fighting and that is known as fighting guile - it is to Calzaghe to show his if he has any. Hopkins tactics are meant to break them down with no flagrant illegal moves.

    I am not underestimating Calzaghe as a boxer but I am definitely estimating Calzaghe's nature as a fighter ( not a boxer) and I say that he's in primary school while Hopkins is post-graduate. It remains to be seen who's going to complain and who's going to shout robbery first.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Nah...it's more like: Hopkins has the post-doc whereas Calzaghe has just finished his PhD.