Part 1 The legend beater This content is protected "I'm not chasing after Roy Jones. Be honest, Roy Jones is a good fighter and I don't want tough fights:rofl:rofl, I just want big money. "I just want to make sure I never have to work again." -Joe Calzaghe http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Boxing:+I'm+lord+of+the+Welsh+rings+says+Calzaghe.-a060444934 March 1999 Lou Di Bella Calzaghe http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BOXIN...;+Collins+must+prove+himself+to...-a060396114 During his training camp for Calzaghe, Collins discovered he had a brain injury and retired from boxing, leaving the door open for Calzaghe to pursue a fight with Jones. Lou Dibella was true to his word and he would get Calzaghe a fight on HBO on the Oscar-Tito undercard. Millions of Americans would see Calzaghe for the first time and if he gave a dominant performance he could get the ball rolling for a Jones-Calzaghe showdown. Calzaghe would agree, but shortly before the fight he would pull out claiming to be injured http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...zaghe-sights-set-on-winning-over-America.html June 1999 Calzaghe would admit that same year that he really had no interest in fighting Jones: www.thefreelibrary.com/Boxing%3A+I%27m+lord+of+the+Welsh+rings+says+Calzaghe.-a060444934 Oct 2000 Strangely enough the following year ****** would claim he tried to make the fight, but Jones was asking for too much money. This is in spite of the fact that Calzaghe said himself that he had no interest in the fight. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/977088.stm 2002 Calzaghe was at this point still unknown in America due to his refusal to fight over there or even promote any of his fights over there. According to ****** the American networks had lost interest in him.[1] So it should of come as no surprise to anyone that Jones and HBO would see a Jones-Hopkins II fight as a more desirable fight than a Jones-Calzaghe fight Check out the article title: BOXING: JONES TO DUCK JOE. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BOXING:+JONES+TO+DUCK+JOE.-a082459309 June 2003 In 2003 Calzaghe would again state he had "concerns" about the possibility of facing Jones http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/i-am-the-best-says-honest-joe-6352495.html
Part 2: The fallen p4p King This content is protected "I have no interest any more in Roy Jones and no interest in Antonio Tarver. Jones is washed up and Tarver was never that good anyway, he just caught Jones when Jones was shot and Johnson did the same." -From Joe's own autobiography, published in 2007. From 2003 onwards things would start to go wrong for Jones Tarver 1: Struggled greatly and was almost stopped Tarver 2: Koed in 2 rounds Johnson : Koed in 9 rounds Tarver 3: Would lose by a wide ud and was hurt badly during the latter rounds Jones was now 0-3 in his last three fights Calzaghe and Hopkins decided now was the best time to face 'Prime Jones' Dec 2005 Hopkins: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BOXING%3a+JONES%2c+HOPKINS+SET+FOR+ONE+LAST+HURRAH.-a0140185945 Jones would pull out of their proposed fight claiming years later that Hopkins was trying to rob him March 2006 Boxing: Calzaghe closing on Jones bout in summer. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=7794&more=1 According to Jones, Warrren made him a lowball offer, which is why the fight never happened http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=11083&more=1 Part 3: The Ghost This content is protected 'I am not running scared of Pavlik'[2] -Joe Calzaghe Talks for Calzaghe-Pavlik started, but came to a halt after Pavlik's destruction of Gary Lockett, who was also trained by Calzaghe's father Calzaghe then decided to fight a washed up Jones making the very bizarre claim that Pavlik had turned him down twice in the past Arum http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BAD+CALL:+CALZAGHE+AVOIDS+PAVLIK.-a0181460032 Calzaghe before the Hopkins fight [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDtzdAYTOA[/ame] Go to 6:35 "Roy Jones is past his best." "Would you see that as a let down to fight Jones as your last fight?" "Yeah.Probably." "Roy Jones was a great fighter, but he is not a great fighter anymore" References: [1] http://www.boxing$cene.com/frank-******-responds-tells-all-on-joe-calzaghe--16188 http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/joe-calzaghe-vs-roy-jones-jr8 [2]http://www.thefreelibrary.com/%27I+am+not+running+scared+of+Pavlik%27+Calzaghe+insists+New+York...-a0183025703
Further quotes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- " I was one of his biggest fans but you have to question why his performance levels completely dipped from the moment it transpired a few years ago that he had failed a drugs test in a fight in Indiana against another american, Richard Hall. All of a sudden, he fell from the premiership to league 2, from being absolutely peerless, to distinctly average " " If I had of fought Jones at his peak and got beaten, I would feel swindled today, knowing that he had taken steroids. Its cheating, theres no other word for it, and I don't know how it managed to be swept under the carpet for a number of years and he went totally unpunished " " If steroids can make athletes run faster, they can surely help a boxer to hit harder and to hit faster and to hit quicker and to hit for longer and this will help him to inflict more punishment, which I think is repulsive" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Jay Larkin, head of boxing for the American Showtime television, said: "With Bernard you never know. I think he comes to us from outer space sometimes. But a fight against Hopkins is a natural for Wales and we would like it to take place here." Larkin confirmed that Hopkins last year agreed to a purse of £1.9million to go in against Calzaghe, only to demand double the money the very next day." http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-5527636-calzaghe-camp-chase-hopkins.do ...... "We have to get Joe to America and the right fight is Bernard Hopkins," said Showtime boxing chief Jay Larkin. "Hopkins turned down a lot of money from us to fight Calzaghe last year, but after what Joe did to Mitchell we can up the ante and offer more." http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/3030004.stm ..... "Hopkins stated: "Right now I'm negotiating along with Don King and Jay Larkin of Showtime. Who we spoke to and we're going to talk to him about two fights, maybe my mandatory too, which makes it a three-fight deal. "It would be the mandatory, Harry Simon and Joe Calzaghe. While Calzaghe fights for that other super-middleweight title, I'll wait for that and knock off Simon after the mandatory and fight the WBO title." http://archive.southwalesargus.co.uk/2002/5/17/72933.html .... "According to both King and Hopkins, the two worked out an agreement for Hopkins' next fight, no small accomplishment considering Hopkins spurned a $10.5 million three-fight Showtime offer made earlier this year that would have sent him into the ring to fight Morrade Hakkar, Joe Calzaghe and Harry Simon. "He's desperate for a fight and he needs to fight me because he messed up his deal with Showtime," Jones Jr. said in the dressing room prior to Saturday's main event." http://www.puertorico-herald.org/iss...at0635-en.html ... Hopkins ducked him all the way up to 2007. Here's a quote from the man himself confirming it... The original plan cooked up by Team Calzaghe was for Joe and Bernard to meet next March for a £10million showdown, according to the Sunday Mirror, but the never-at-a-loss-for-words Hopkins put a kibosh on those plans, not temporarily, but once and for all. "Calzaghe is a good fighter but right now it would be a backward step for me," Hopkins said. "It is not a big enough fight right now and I need a big fight to get motivated. A fight against Maskaev would be exactly the type of fight I need" ... Calzaghe has heard the news and isn't taking it lying down. "Hopkins, to be honest, is just one of the names on a long list," he said. "[But] it's funny how the so-called big names in American boxing always have a handy reason not to fight me." http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...he-not-so-fast This was after Calzaghe's masterclass vs Lacy. Hopkins didn't even bother fighting a heavyweight, he chickened out of that one too, settling for pretend heavyweight Mason Dixon coming off losing 45lbs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You Tube 6:45 in. "For 2 years Calzaghe has chased pound for pound number one Roy Jones, but to no avail". You Tube #! also: *THIS VIDEO IS ON YOUTUBE: 'Roy Jones jr looks ahead to Calzaghe'* Steve Bunce: When did Joe first pop up in a conversation? Roy Jones: When he beat Chris Eubank I started watching him then. Steve Bunce: 1997 Roy Jones: I knew it then...but he then kinda backed down on the opponents he was fighting so I RELEASED THE IDEA OF IT [fighting Joe]. So Jones admits he was aware of Joe early on, but wasn't interested in fighting him. BBC, 21st November 2001. "It's all very well being the best in the world, but you need big names for big fights," he reflects. A fight with the Eric Lucas, the WBC champion, is a possibility, but unification fights are notoriously hard and expensive to arrange. As is a bout with Roy Jones. "To be honest I'm getting quite fed up with it," Calzaghe said. A bout against the undisputed light heavyweight champion has been the subject of ongoing speculation. "It's difficult because of the different networks involved. He's with HBO and I'm with Showtime - that's a massive obstacle in itself. "Secondly, you've got to ask yourself whether Roy Jones would want to fight me. "At the moment he picks his own opponents, fights the easiest guys he can and gets a lot of money for beating them. "I'm dangerous and I can take the mega money out of his pocket. Why would he want to fight me? Jones himself made the statement that he did not go fight him because it was too risky be it in the UK or states...he stated that on National TV while commentating on Calzaghe/Hopkins those words exactly get a copy of the fight and find out yourself....If Jones said it himself then any argument you have is out the window because Jones stated nothing about why should I have...I was ranked #1 he was ranked # whatever he said... This content is protected AT THAT TIME ESPECIALLY IF I HAD TO GO TO THE UK... he added nothing in on it.... roy jones the man who fought Richard Frazier the part time cop and then bragged about his greatness afterward.... http://www.****************/boxing-f...once-more.html Former four-division champion Roy Jones Jr, speaking with The Sunday Times, responded to Joe Calzaghe's recent claim of chasing Jones for several years and being brushed aside. Calzaghe spoke with The Sunday Mirror and appeared to have some newfound hostility when Jones' name came up. "I spent five or six years chasing Jones and he acted like he never even knew my name," said Calzaghe. "Suddenly, I beat Hopkins in Vegas and Jones wants to be my neighbor - it's ridiculous. If a fight with Jones made sense from a cash point of view, then it could happen, but he is notorious for asking for too much money." Jones says that he viewed Calzaghe as a possible opponent several years ago, but at the time he saw no reason to travel to Wales to chase the fight. Now that Calzaghe is the bigger star, Jones is willing to make the fight anywhere. This content is protected I love everything about him. He’s a fun guy, an entertaining guy, a good person. We took some pictures together with his sons after the fight on Saturday and we’ve talked on the phone. But This content is protected ”You don’t go to somebody else when you’re the best, they must come to you, so I wouldn’t take the risk, and why would I? Why would I meet that challenge when I’m already the best? Why would I go to your country and give you a chance to allow the powers that be to take a close decision and give it to you?" Jones says a fight with Calzaghe is the best fight in boxing, even better than a possible rematch between Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather Jr, scheduled for September. “But right now this is the best fight out there, better than the Oscar De La Hoya-Floyd Mayweather rematch because we all know what the outcome of that fight is going to be – another win for Floyd. You don’t know the outcome of this fight, however, so it’s a fight people are going to want to see. There’s suspense, and that’s what makes for a big fight," Jones says. Read the link below http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BOXING...SH.-a091559984 28:52 mark You Tube [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhSxp...tu.be&t=26m47s[/ame] http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-19059682.html
realsoulja checking in, this thread going to turn into a battlefield soon. Regardless, boxing is business to these folks all that happend was money motivated.
I agree... Calzaghe and Hopkins are 2 fighters there is no argument for Roy ducking... Of course Bailey will bring up steroid quotes, that have no relevance for Joe not wanting to take the risk to fight Jones when it mattered.
I'm up for this one to be fair. We're just missing Imperial, Knockout Artist, and the always friendly Loudon.