Calzaghe, Jones and Hopkins

Sorry I had to type that before I ran out the door

You knew what I meant:fire . . . lol.

I hope you realize you could have made sure that you did not make a mistake when correcting my mistake:thumbsup.

 

Zod, I do not know why you even put in the effort? These fools will NEVER, EVER come back to reality:bart

 

Don't worry... Bailey once told me to get out of his "educted" thread.

Originally Posted by bailey

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So if you dont know much about someone, why come on a thread that is asking for opinions on who would win a fight involving a fighter you know little about atsch.
Get off this educted thread :bart

Epic Failey:deal

 

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Jones was ranked as #1 after DM declined of course by just about everyone, he also beat Gonzalez who beat the declining DM. So a new line formed, Jones beat Tarver and was the man, then Tarver beat Jones and Johnson and was the man himself. Then Hopkins beat Tarver, then Calzaghe beat Hopkins, making Calzaghe the man at LHW, do you not agree with that form line?

Fair enough, you're clearly a big fan of Jones and credit where it's due dropping back down to LHW and beating Tarver was a very good win, it's Jones' best win after Toney and Hopkins in my opinion.

I agree that Jones has a better LHW resume than DM due to his wins over Tarver and R.Johnson, though it's close between them. You have to be fair as well though, Joe's win over Hopkins was very good, Hopkins was on his best run of wins and after losing to Joe, he turned in one of his career best performances against Pavlik.

 

And you've proven nothing. I see you posted up yet another useless quote.

The big TV networks knew full well who Joe was. No demand for Jones-Calzaghe? Yes there way, you even posted up a quote from Lou Dibella talking about the fight in 1999, clearly Lou was interested, you just shot yourself in the foot there. But hey, Jones made title defences against the likes of Bryan Bannon and Otis Grant, I suppose there was huge demand for those fights so you have a point...

 

I can't disagree with any of this...

I also believe that Calzaghe was the man at LHW, I was pretty much saying for Calzaghe to be the man, then Roy had to be the man at some point.

Quality post.:good

 

Yes he did, he said it himself, even you can't ignore that Zod atsch

Nice, so you're twisting Roy's words to suit your agenda. Let's look at facts, Roy himself says him and Joe wanted to face each other for years, that interview is clearly bothering you as you've resorted to posting up the same nonsense again. It's pretty damning for you if Roy himself confirms Joe wanted to face him, that's pretty decisive. As unless your aimless quotes, this is from Jones himself, and it's video evidence :deal

As you said Zod, it's about what you can prove, so can you prove it's from 2006? This is a habit of yours, you try and pass your opinion off as facts, how do you know it's from 2006? Let me help you out

This isn't to accuse Jones of ducking Calzaghe, he made £17m fighting Ruiz and made history, so that makes perfect sense to me. But look at the timeline, when Jones was P4P number 1, and looking to fight Ruiz, that was anytime up to 2003.

I have that it was 6-7 years, now let me help you out again

2008- 6 years = 2002, or 2008-7 years = 2003.

So that's your proof, simple maths, though you'll do your usual act when you get schooled and ignore these points, it's here in black and white for anyone to read.

atsch

Let me make this clear for you in a decisive manner:-

Joe was ready to face Steve Collins, and in build up to a tune up for his comeback, Collins feinted and retired from the game for good. Calzaghe-Collins would have happened, but it never did. Hence Calzaghe could never have faced Collins on a Roy Jones undercard.

Now the next question to be posed to you, where's the proof that an offer was made to Joe and that he turned it down?

 

It doesn't do well to dwell on the past guys.

 

Nice that we finally agree on something :thumbsup

What do you rank as Roy Jones' top 5 wins?

Toney
Hopkins
Tarver
Ruiz
Hill

in my opinion

To be fair, if there's any one sport where fans dwell on the past more than any other it's boxing

 

I can't argue this..:good

Though I do think the destruction of Griffin in the second fight gets underrated a bit.. Griffin at his best was not a bad fighter, with an awkward style that can make fighters look bad..

And If you look at it, Griffin at the time was undefeated, a top LHW, and the only man to hold "wins" over both Jones and Toney...

I am pretty sure he was rated pretty high by Ring Magazine as well after he gave Jones hell in the first fight..

Just the way Jones came out and took it to him was pretty impressive I thought, especially against a guy that was clearly giving him fits, and at the time his toughest ever fight.

 

I agree, Griffin went off the boil after getting KO'd by Jones, but at his best he was a good fighter no doubt. Griffin could not have expected Roy to go after him like that in the rematch, excellent strategy. Watching him stumble around is pretty funny as well after