Calzaghe, Jones and Hopkins

He's been sectioned ha!

That's what happens, when you believe that Roy was the same in 2008, as what he was in 2000.

 

As I'm absolutely shattered, and have already discussed this in better detail with Loudon, I'm going to keep this simply.

My position on this thread:

'I wouldn't say he chased Roy, but I wouldn't say he avoided Roy, I wouldn't say Roy avoided Joe either'

From one of my previous posts.

I don't really see how I've been proven wrong, at all.

Now General Zod, you stated the court transcript was dodgy, yet I offered to provide further evidence that it was legitimate, why have you ignored that?, just accept it's completely legitimate

Now, it's amusing that General Zod accuses me of being a poster driven by agenda's. Let's have a look at some of Zod's greatest hits

Perhaps because Hopkins was the consensus number 1 LHW in the world you dummy?

Why not quote me properly you degenerate?

I stated

[url]http://eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13570919&postcount=426[/url]

It's cowardly to misquote someone nono

As for your little H2H posts, they mean **** all Why don't you go ahead and do me a prime Mike Tyson v Buster Douglas theorotical H2H post, they mean nothing.

And of course Jeff Lacy was a very good fighter and a very good win, he was an undefeated world champion. But hey, since you deny that he injury didn't affect him

'Jeff Lacy Suffers Possible Career Ending Shoulder Injury'


[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/weblog/news.php?p=9130&more=1[/url]

From 2006


Now, onto my next point about agenda's. I noticed you bringing up Toney again. Now I stated the Toney win, albeit a very good win is overrated due to Toney being weakened by making weight. You responded with:

[url]http://eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13049846&postcount=358[/url]

Both from the same thread

Now, General Zod posts

[url]http://eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13600321&postcount=457[/url]


Now come on Zod, where is the proof Toney was out of shape against Tiberi? :rofl

No agenda at all :nut

Now, onto Toney's weight issues against Jones, have a look:

[url]http://youtu.be/Fb9W87oQ4po?t=1h6m33s[/url]


Roy Jones himself acknowledges Toney's issues with making weight, and Toney himself talks about it

Now what was it you were saying about agenda's?

Remember your logic of 'Calzaghe is Robin Reid level, because on an off night with an injured hand he struggled to beat Reid'?

So, applying General Zod logic, James Toney is Dave Tiberi level I assume :think

In being fair, Jones' win over Toney was superb, and he deserves much credit for it. Toney is also a lot better than Dave Tiberi, once again I'm pointing out how inconsistent Zod is, and how hypocritical it is of him to accuse posters of having agenda's. Want to see something else?

Zod says Jones didn't have to travel to Germany, but says Joe should have. Here's General Zod speaking the subject before:

When one poster states Jones didn't have to travel, in response Zod posted:

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8088569&postcount=16[/url]


Not stating Jones had to travel, just pointing out Zod's inconsistencies

Admit it, you've never stepped into a boxing gym in your life! You know **** all about the game if you're serious about what you've just stated.

I love how you whine about posts which criticise Jones' opposition, then do the exact same thing to Calzaghe as if you're not a massive hypocrite. You're the worst for this, as I've shown, you post to whatever suits your agenda.

Finally

Now I trust you've seen that fight right? Let me refresh your memory

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Puxp2Lv6QU[/ame]

 

with the right ref, Joe might get stopped by roy, sure. Thats a fairly big 'if', when Joe almost always had the ref and crowd on his side.

if you just suppose that he did take the fight with roy, at a time when roy was unknown to the world, then he'd have no reason to go cawardzaghe because he wouldnt be in awe of roy as he was in reality - and he would justgo in there and keep trying to win, no matter how many times he got whupped up. I dont think he would get stopped as long as he wasnt feeling overwhelmed from the moment he got nito the ring. Hypothetical situation, yes because Roy was the man was Calzaghe was unknown but in that hypothetical situation I dont think Calzaghe would wilt, he would keep going, thinking he could win it. Especially with a welsh ref, who did his best to keep roy away when Zaghes was getting inevitably bustup. Zaghes might be a bit of a coward outside the ring but hes got the desire to keep going in the ring once he gets going and starts believing hes the man.

 

Them clips you posted general zod are hilarious, all they need is some benny hill music :rofl:rofl:rofl

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg[/ame]

 

I have been off this thread for a long time, but it seems that only fans opinions try and argue with facts and KO Artist has schooled an entire thread, showing how Calzaghe chased the best.
Looks like Zods weeks of research ended in selfpwning whilst Loudon cheered him on "Great post Zod, excellent reply to an amazing thread" only to fall down with him.

Top marks to KO Artist for staying the course and destroying the haters

 

Ha!

 

Nice strawman argument, but you failed. Hopkins was the number 1 ranked LHW in the world, he was the big name, worth the most money. Beating him meant Calzaghe was recognised as the number 1 LHW in the world, it also meant the most money [/quote]

Excuses, excuses :rofl:

What do you expect a fighter to say in interview? 'Nope, my shoulder's ****ed and my career is finished'. Zod fails again :rofl:

Anyone who makes an excuse has an agenda according to Zod

Then Zod goes and makes excuses for Toney's struggles with Tiberi :rofl:

[url]http://eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13049846&postcount=358[/url]

Both from the same thread

Now, General Zod posts

[url]http://eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13600321&postcount=457[/url]


Where's that Benny Hill music again?

Reid never got a rematch, because he priced himself out.

Reid confirms he was offered a rematch

[url]http://www.doghouseboxing.com/UK/Spud012105.htm[/url]

Now, 90k is what Reid got paid to fight Ottke

[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2003/dec/09/boxing.johnrawling[/url]

:hi:


Why did Toney lose to both Tiberi and Thadzi? Remember your policy on excuses and agendas, why not give me another one of your H2H breakdowns on prime Toney vs Thadzi and Tiberi, perhaps those could help clear things up?

You categorically stated earlier that Jones shouldn't have to go to Germany. Nor did Calzaghe then, he went to Germany because he was mandated to, he went to Germany 2 years after DM lost his title

What is it the end of? Why are you conveniently ignoring that Calzaghe didn't fight in Germany until 2 years after DM had lost his title?

 

Shouldn't headbutts result in points deductions though? It was a TD, not a TKO.

Anyways,