Calzaghe-Kessler most significatn fight of the century...

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  1. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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  2. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Kessler wins, how the hell is he the best SMW ever? Calzaghe will be the only decent fighter on his resume. He'll have a long way to go to be regarded as a great SMW.
     
  3. cross_trainer

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    He will have beaten the #1 supermiddleweight opponent in the division, which will go a long way toward creating legitimacy. The thing about supermiddleweight is that it's a very young division without much talent in the past. Kessler would be the best supermiddleweight ever because there haven't been many great ones before him.
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    1. Unification of titles - Everyone and their mother knows that Calzaghe is the rightful owner of the IBF belt, which he won when he beat Lacy in a unification bout. To top it off both these fighters have earned their belts unlike some of the fighters you mentioned in your list who had them handed on a silver platter. (DLH vs Sturm give me a ****ing break!). Also this fight is more evenly split in terms of odds than many of the fights that you mentioned but obviously you don't mention that. This is one of the more competitive fights at the elite level

    2. Popularity of fighters world wide. I live in Canada, and here Kessler and CAlzaghe are both more popular than Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley (now not in his prime), Taylor, Pavlik, etc.

    3. Historical Value - Fight that will crown the first ever Super Middleweight Champ as well as one ofthe few undisputed champions of the modern era. It will also establish lineage.

    4. Entertainment Value - This fight has all the potential in the world to be truly amazing

    5. Monetary Value - who gives a ****! we are fans not promoters. Anyways this fight will surely exceed your expectations in terms of revenues.
     
  5. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    Roy. Jones. Jr.

    Period.
     
  6. unclepaulie

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    Nobody currently fighting in the SMW's could touch Roy when he fought there.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    and here we see where the hate stems from
     
  8. cross_trainer

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    He also has a strong case as a potential #1, though only because of his dominance on film and accomplishments after leaving the supermiddleweight division.
     
  9. unclepaulie

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    point out anywhere i showed hate to Calzaghe, Kessler, OR the fight, it just is what it is. To say that a prime Roy loses to any fighter currently in fighting SMW is absurd.
     
  10. mattress

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    It's crazy to say that Kessler becomes the greatest ever (even better than JC and all he has done) if he beats Joe Calzaghe. Did Buster Douglas or Rahman suddenly become elite HWs on the back of one fight?
     
  11. mattress

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    Jones v Calzaghe would have been a hell of a tear-up
     
  12. cross_trainer

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    They were not consensus #2 fighters before their wins against Lewis and Tyson, though. Nor did they have a division whose history stretches back only a decade.

    If Douglas or Rahman had been involved in a unification fight against Lewis/Tyson rather than a routine title defense, and the only champions before Tyson were Spinks and Holmes, then they would have a claim to being "the greatest" in their division.
     
  13. unclepaulie

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    Ok...

    Joe Calzaghe+Mikkel Kessler > or = Oscar DeLaHoya+Arturo Gatti in popularity???

    um ok.
     
  14. Boom_Boom

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    well its clearly the biggest European fight of this century atleast
     
  15. mattress

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    There is a huge difference in 'the greatest in their division' and the 'greatest ever'. I am not disputing the first quote.