Calzaghe-Kessler most significatn fight of the century...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by unclepaulie, Oct 2, 2007.


  1. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Because both wants exposure, and HBO acknowledges that a vast majority don't really know these guys. If you think its because it isn't important or a top rank fight, then you are simply wrong.

    I think all that views this fight, will come back and say - this was the fight of the century.
     
  2. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This fight is not the fight of the century, you do understand that a century is a 100 years right? This is a good fight Im looking foward to seeing, but honestly, I dont even consider this fights the most significant fight of the year. That title would go to Mayweather/Hatton, I think thats the fight people are really looking foward to.
     
  3. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    ...and let's watch Gatti-Ward IV for the world championship!
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Nom that's just how it is to you. To the rest of the world, it's a very good fight. But it's doesn't have more meaning then even DLH - Mayweather or even Taylor - Hopkins. Both of those had deeper meaning in terms of out with the old, in with the new. Shane vs. Winky gave us the first unified JrMW champ in what, almost 30 years?

    I understand you're psyched, and that's all good. But it's closer to just a potentially great fight then the most sigcificant one of the past 7 years. Anyway, I don't want to rain on your parade, that's kinda dickish of me, so I'll STFU. :D

    But I am, excited for this. :thumbsup
     
  6. Mrvooh

    Mrvooh Guest

    I wouldn't say that...jones had a bad chin, and Kessler/Joe hit pretty hard.. jones was great, but it only takes one good shot to take someone out even if you are losing. I recall many on here saying Joe had no chance against Lacy. they that said that were just as certain about that as you are saying RJJ beats anyone today. No one makes accurate predictions everytime.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    There was no evidence of a bad chin while he fought @ 168. Anf not really ever till he moved to HW and went back down to `75, at 36YO (or however old he was). He was also had faster hands anf feet then either Joe C or Kessler and a damn hard hitter at 168. You'd have to take some serious punishment to get in close to Jones, and even then he was very elusive.
     
  8. Mrvooh

    Mrvooh Guest

    You mean like Patterson was scared to fight Johansson out of the USA? Or Louis was scared to fight Max in germany??
    Ali, i give credit to, he went anywhere...but the rest of the USA champs back then didn't leave USA to go fight, so Joe and Kessler are no worse than they were...
     
  9. Mrvooh

    Mrvooh Guest

    Unfortunately, you are right. I lean on some posters and make some off the wall comments, just to play at their level :oops:
     
  10. Korn_06

    Korn_06 ESB Slave Full Member

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    Lets not get carried away here. Calzaghe - Kessler may not even be the most significan fight this year. If Hatton beats Mayweather then I will give that more significance. You can not realy talk about the significance of a fight before it happened. Maybe not until years after can you meassure its significance. But it definitely has the potential of being significant.

    This fight is definitely the biggest fight in Europe for a very long time. This is the fight I look forward to the most, but for other boxing fans that may not be very interested in the SMW division it might not even get into the top 10.

    I think many posters feel like me, eagerly looking forward to this fight, want to talk about it, but everything has been repeated endlessly so what is there to say. But I feel it in fact hurts the fight more than it helps it to show this senseless worshipping of the fighters and the fight.

    If they are as great as we think they will show their class.
     
  11. Mrvooh

    Mrvooh Guest

    I dunno...I have seen many posts on RJJ chin being worse than Wlads...you are the first one I've seen to deny it...:conf
     
  12. Korn_06

    Korn_06 ESB Slave Full Member

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    It is blasphemy or witchcraft to indicate that RJJ would have any risk of loosing to anyone in his prime. It is the biggest taboo on ESB.
     
  13. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    China Hand Joe, theese are some of the flat out stupid arguments you have made, and will in fact keep me from giving any credit to any of you're future arguments, as this just shows your blatent bias towards non-american fighters.
    There are three more relevant fights this year. Just this year. De La Hoya-Mayweather, Hatton-Mayweather, and Cotto-Mosley. And by the by, usually fighters get big names based on thier skills and quality of opposition, depending how they do against said opposition.
    Calzaghe is superior to Ali? There is absolutley no wasy Calzaghe comes close to being on the same skill level as Ali. Ali was the best heavyweight in the greatest era of heavyweights. Frazier is also far superior to Kessler. And last time I checked The Ring belt was the only true champion belt left, buut I guess that stopped being the case when Calzaghe won the WBO, which is, as everyone else here will Im sure agree, by far the most prestegious award in not only boxing, but all of sports.
    This just shows your anit-american bias, flat out.
    I think Frazier was way beyond Kesslers level. Im not even going to go into your argument of he beat nobody besides Ali, because Kessler can never have an opponent of Ali's magnitude. Even if that was Fraziers only significant victory, then it in and of itself is a far better win than Kessler has or ever will have.
    Calzaghe Kessler is a good fight, but nowhere close to FOTC. There just arent the resumes to back them. All you have done is make bold and ridiculous statements and not had any point behind them. There is no way Calzaghe is on the same level as Ali, nor Kessler is on Fraziers. Sorry to burst your Calzaghe bubble, but if you really believe that then there is no reason for any poster on ESB to take into consideration what you have to say.
     
  14. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I know that century means hundred - but you do realize that each of them starts anew every hundred years - this is the 20th. So fight of the century mean fight of 20th century.

    Well, Mayweather/Hatton is a top match, but its not even close - Hatton is not fighting in his best weight class. Mayweather is no longer in his best either. But to each his own. You go by popularity - I go by what matters the most, and having a fight at SMW to unify all belts means more to me.
     
  15. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I do understand what your saying but Calzaghe at 35 isnt exactly in his prime and Kessler might be I guess, but Im really not sure how you determine this as a fight of the century. I look at a fight of the century as a fight everybody wants to see and that 2 fighters our in there primes fighting each other, I think Mayweather/Hatton is closer to both men being in there prime, while being more of an exciting fight to not just americans but to most fight fans as a whole.