Calzaghe-Kessler most significatn fight of the century...

MSTR · Oct 4, 2007

Axe said:

I'm not praising his resume at the moment. He has one big win in which he was floored hard, that's it.

In terms of boxing skills however, he is a level above Kessler imo, he has more angles, is faster, more elusive, moves his head better, etc.

He could turn out to be the next big thing or he could get iced by Diaconu next. Who knows. All we can do is look at the fighter that appears in the ring on a fight-by-fight basis.
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Kessler is far too orthadox to ever deal with a fighter with the technical skills of Dawson. He would simply get out boxed, and quite badly so IMO. Dawson is bigger, faster and just plain better. Style wise this is NOT a good match up for Kess, who would fight much the same way Adamek did IMO

Toopretty · Oct 4, 2007

Pharaoh said:

1. Unification of titles - Everyone and their mother knows that Calzaghe is the rightful owner of the IBF belt, which he won when he beat Lacy in a unification bout. To top it off both these fighters have earned their belts unlike some of the fighters you mentioned in your list who had them handed on a silver platter. (DLH vs Sturm give me a ****ing break!). Also this fight is more evenly split in terms of odds than many of the fights that you mentioned but obviously you don't mention that. This is one of the more competitive fights at the elite level

2. Popularity of fighters world wide. I live in Canada, and here Kessler and CAlzaghe are both more popular than Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley (now not in his prime), Taylor, Pavlik, etc. :rofl:rofl:roflnut:nut

3. Historical Value - Fight that will crown the first ever Super Middleweight Champ as well as one ofthe few undisputed champions of the modern era. It will also establish lineage.

4. Entertainment Value - This fight has all the potential in the world to be truly amazing (YOU ARE ONE FUNNY MOTHER****ER..YOU SHOULD BE PROMOTING THIS BULL**** ASS 168 UNIFICATION BOUT. THAT IS WHAT IT IS..A 168 PD UNIFICATION BOUT BETWEEN TWO OF THE LEAST KNOWN FIGHTERS IN BOXING...YES...WORLD ****ING WIDE AND DAMNED FOR SURE HERE IN THE US.)

5. Monetary Value - who gives a ****! we are fans not promoters. Anyways this fight will surely exceed your expectations in terms of revenues.
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Never has, never will. This **** is on cable. Not PPV.:yep

168 is one of the most blatently weakest division in boxing since..I dont know...its existence which was short.

Toopretty · Oct 4, 2007

Dawson would whoop Kessler and Calzaghes ass. I mean that. They would get outboxed and see how Dawson has Roy like quickness as a southpaw with longer reach and a mean lead off right hand. Dawson would crush both of them.

box03 · Oct 4, 2007

This fight is only a big deal in the Euro countries, it reminds of how they fought Bruno/Lewis was the fight of the century too.

Toopretty · Oct 4, 2007

box03 said:

This fight is only a big deal in the Euro countries, it reminds of how they fought Bruno/Lewis was the fight of the century too.
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:yep:yep:good

Lance_Uppercut · Oct 4, 2007

Mrvooh said:

I dunno...I have seen many posts on RJJ chin being worse than Wlads...you are the first one I've seen to deny it...:conf
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Did I deny it? Quote it. Then again, maybe you can give an example of his terrible chin in his lighter days. I'll wait.

Lance_Uppercut · Oct 4, 2007

China_hand_Joe said:

Oscar - Mayweather was just a huge money spinner and a mismatch. Oscar had done absolutely nothing of late.

It isn't difficult to suggest Calzaghe is better than Ali mate. There is a greater talent pool at SWM for starters, it is likely to produce better fighters, as SMW are normal, commonly sized people. HW are massive and there are very few of them in the world. Far lesser talent pool, devalues any HW era a bit. Ali isn't amazingly impressive on video either. His biggest fights Foreman and Fraizer. The only two good, non robbery victories he has. In losing to Fraizer and non via a freak knockout (like Lewis might) he showed how ungodlike he actually was and against Foreman (with the accidental invention of the rope-a-dope) he won based on Foreman's inability to pace himself and general lack of wisdom at that time, but that was still very impressive just not Calzaghe - Eubank, Calzaghe - Lacy, Calzaghe KO1 Veit, Calzaghe KO2 Mitchell impressive.
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The forum jester does it again. YOu show how very little you know and idiots STILL kiss your ass...atsch

Polymath · Oct 4, 2007

China_hand_Joe said:

You really think the fact many part-time American fans are ignorant to this bout somehow devalues it? Rubbish. This is as significant as any bout in history. In pure boxing terms. Fame is not a factor.
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:rofl

Are you doing schtick, or you really believe that? Can't quite tell from your tone.

unclepaulie · Oct 4, 2007

Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe
Oscar - Mayweather was just a huge money spinner and a mismatch. Oscar had done absolutely nothing of late.

It isn't difficult to suggest Calzaghe is better than Ali mate. There is a greater talent pool at SWM for starters, it is likely to produce better fighters, as SMW are normal, commonly sized people. HW are massive and there are very few of them in the world. Far lesser talent pool, devalues any HW era a bit. Ali isn't amazingly impressive on video either. His biggest fights Foreman and Fraizer. The only two good, non robbery victories he has. In losing to Fraizer and non via a freak knockout (like Lewis might) he showed how ungodlike he actually was and against Foreman (with the accidental invention of the rope-a-dope) he won based on Foreman's inability to pace himself and general lack of wisdom at that time, but that was still very impressive just not Calzaghe - Eubank, Calzaghe - Lacy, Calzaghe KO1 Veit, Calzaghe KO2 Mitchell impressive.
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I am not even going to touch you thinking Calzaghe is better than Ali, I'll just chalk that one up to a long day at work or some really good mushrooms. I will say that if you dont think Ali looks impressive on video, than you obviously haven't seen Ali-Cleveland Williams fight. Also if you would be so kind as to study your non-european boxing history than you would know that Ali went into the ring against Foreman with the rope-a-dope strategy in his head. He had sparring partners beating up his body for that whole training camp. Then he got into the ring and knocked out what was thought to be a basically unbeatable fighter. This fight was so much more impressive than any Calzaghe victory. Foreman is an ATG. Cant say the same about Eubank, Lacy, Veit, or Mitchell. I must say that you are the biggest nuthugger on this forum, hands down.

Polymath · Oct 4, 2007

Joe Calzaghe would be embarrased if he read this thread.

Axe · Oct 5, 2007

Polymath said:

Joe Calzaghe would be embarrased if he read this thread.
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I think his own fans would terrify the man. :yep

THN · Oct 5, 2007

China_hand_Joe said:

Oscar - Mayweather was just a huge money spinner and a mismatch. Oscar had done absolutely nothing of late.

It isn't difficult to suggest Calzaghe is better than Ali mate. There is a greater talent pool at SWM for starters, it is likely to produce better fighters, as SMW are normal, commonly sized people. HW are massive and there are very few of them in the world. Far lesser talent pool, devalues any HW era a bit. Ali isn't amazingly impressive on video either. His biggest fights Foreman and Fraizer. The only two good, non robbery victories he has. In losing to Fraizer and non via a freak knockout (like Lewis might) he showed how ungodlike he actually was and against Foreman (with the accidental invention of the rope-a-dope) he won based on Foreman's inability to pace himself and general lack of wisdom at that time, but that was still very impressive just not Calzaghe - Eubank, Calzaghe - Lacy, Calzaghe KO1 Veit, Calzaghe KO2 Mitchell impressive.
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Stop smoking that weed man, I'm looking forward to the 4. of Nov.
as well, but don't be carried away like that, you will be a sad man Nov. 5 th. then.:yep

Smazz20 · Oct 5, 2007

The sad thing is, if Calzaghe does beat Kessler, he'll most likely either fight Woods or Erdei to claim his two weight world champion status.

Kessler will then have a **** load of more work to do to entice Americans into fighting him. No one will bother with him afterwards. It's sad that a defeat could have that sort of effect on a fighers career.

China_hand_Joe · Oct 5, 2007

JayGatsby said:

I am not even going to touch you thinking Calzaghe is better than Ali.
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Mayweather, Tszyu, Jones, Calzaghe, Wlad, Lewis and maybe even Joan Guzman from the last decade are all easily superior to Ali.

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