Calzaghe-Lacy....Is Lacy overrated?

TFFP · Jan 23, 2008

klion22 said:

Just like the way you Brits told us how Hatton would dominate PBF? :mj
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Yeah, except most didn't

A few were on a wind up, but I don't think any serious fan saw him as anything other than a live underdog

You actually told us Lacy was going to knock Joe out

klion22 · Jan 23, 2008

TFFP said:

Yeah, except most didn't

A few were on a wind up, but I don't think any serious fan saw him as anything other than a live underdog

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How's that possible? I just joined this board last year. :wall :nut

TFFP · Jan 23, 2008

klion22 said:

How's that possible? I just joined this board last year. :wall :nut
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You as in Yanks

I've no idea what your actual prediction was, but a good proportion on here thought Lacy was going to win. There was no arguing with them, Jeff's left hook was going to expose this Euro bum

Amusing

Shake · Jan 23, 2008

Hindsight is indeed 20/20.

Losing = exposed.

I don't think Lacy ever was that bad, it was rather Joe surprising the world with his inside game and relentless output. Shame Lacy ****ed up his shoulder, as he could have gone on to be someone.

sean · Jan 23, 2008

Blocky said:

Lacy was over-rated in the idea that he would've beat Calzaghe.

He's now under-rated in the idea that he isn't a top 4 still in SMW.

Bute would get dominated, even by this form of Lacy - Bute's low lead right hand combined with Lacy's stellar left hook would close the night.

In Lacy, you've got a durable fighter with solid power, average speed and the ability to turn the fight in one shot. I think give him a few more Manfredo level fights to clear the rust, get confidence back in his shoulder and confidence back in his performance and he'll be a capable foil for anyone except maybe Kessler

Kesslers height, jab speed and ability to keep the distance may be too much for Lacy.
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lacy is not top 4 at 168 anymore.

he looked poor v typsko and manfredo.
with his shoulder and the sustained beating he took.
he has no left hook at the moment and his confindnce is shot.

no way should he be number 4 om current form

Paulie · Jan 23, 2008

Blocky...I hope you're joking about Bute vs Lacy...Lacy would not go 12 rounds against Bute like he did against Calzaghe...

dan-b · Jan 23, 2008

Paulie said:

Blocky...I hope you're joking about Bute vs Lacy...Lacy would not go 12 rounds against Bute like he did against Calzaghe...
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He wouldn't have to because he'd knock Bute out in the first round.

Kostya Zoo · Jan 23, 2008

sean said:

this was the experts pick at seconsorout in the week before the fight.

"I really like Joe Calzaghe. He's done all the things necessary during his long stint as world champion, with the obvious exception of fighting someone like Jeff Lacy. But he's been a credit to the game and an inspiration for young British boxers. Which is why I hate writing the following. He'll dominate the early rounds against Jeff Lacy, before being stopped around the 10th, as youth prevails over experience and brittle hands." - Sanjeev Shetty (British correspondent)

"Call me crazy, but I have a sneaking suspicion that this fight will turn into the 2006 reincarnation of Tyson/Spinks. Calzaghe, like Spinks, is going through a period of relative inactivity. Spinks and Calzaghe were both fighters more on the downside of their respective careers facing young, powerful, knockout virtuosos. Tyson needed Spinks to unify the heavyweight division, while Lacy needs Calzaghe to make a legitimate claim as the top Super-Middleweight in the world. Lacy KO2" - Evan Korn (New York Correspondent)

"Calzaghe breaks his hand in the 2nd - Lacy breaks his face in the 3rd!" - Rish ap Wiliam (Chief Technical Officer)

"This is a tough fight to call. Will the improving, fresher Jeff Lacy prevail against the more experienced Joe Calzaghe? I believe Lacy will nick it in the closest of fights." - Clive Bernath (Editor in Chief)

"Lacy by close, but thoroughly deserved decision; too sharp, too hungry, too aggressive. Right place, right time for the IBF champion." - Mark G. Butcher (Founding Editor)

"It is speed against strength, a very hard to pick intriguing match up. Joe will secure an early lead and school Lacy. Down the stretch, the American will get in close range and will do some damage. Calzaghe by a close but well deserved decision." - Juan Pablo Manfredi (Argentinean Correspondent)

"Lacy is too young and strong for any 168 pounder right now. At 28 years of age, he is at or near his peak. After giving Lacy a fight for four or five rounds, Calzaghe will begin to wilt under Lacy's pressure and punch. Lacy in ten after a great fight." - Jerry Glick (New York Correspondent)

"I think both guys possess power as demonstrated by their KO ratios. But I like Lacy to withstand what Calzaghe throws at him. I'm not sure that Lacy can KO Calzaghe, but I believe he can stun him. I like Lacy by decision." - Tim Smith (Special Feature Writer)

"Lacy by knockout. Calzaghe is well past his prime." - Thomas Hauser (Lead Feature Writer)

"Are there overtones of Davey Moore vs. Roberto Duran about this Lacy vs. Calzaghe tilt? OK, so sometimes you have to stretch for even a symbolic point of comparison. If we judge the fight on skill and experience vs. desire and physicality then we get one result, a result where Calzaghe plays the role of Duran, on his birthday, 1983. If we think of just how well Calzaghe will have to be technically and emotionally to hold off the determined challenge of Lacy, we might get another result. The result I am looking for will be earned by the guy contesting the better fight round after round; may fate please spare us flukes or fouls! When I look at who's the better guy right now - March of 2006 - it looks, to me, like Jeff Lacy." -Patrick Kehoe (Contributing Editor)

"Lacy is still developing as a fighter, and Calzaghe has the tools to give him fits if he uses them right. But what might be the overriding theme of this fight is that Calzaghe appears to be psychologically spent as a professional fighter. With setbacks inside the ring and personal problems outside of it, his enthusiasm for the game appears to be waning. In terms of motivation and momentum, then, Lacy has the clear edge, and I see him earning a KO or TKO win sometime in the middle rounds." - Matthew Wells (Feature Writer)

"Joe Calzaghe has been a good super middleweight world champion for a long time, but he has left it too late in his career to step up a level. Jeff Lacy is the future and he is only going to get better under trainer Dan Birmingham, who is one of the sport's most underrated. Lacy's work with Birmingham, and Winky Wright, who Dan also trains, is going to see Lacy even better for this fight. I don't think the 2am start will affect Lacy, he is the younger of the two. Lacy wants to really prove himself, hence him willing to travel to the UK for this fight. He is younger, stronger and hits harder than Lacy. Calzaghe's history of hand problems could also work against him. In a thrilling fight while it lasts, Lacy will win by stoppage. Lacy KO4." - Paul Upham (Contributing Editor)

as you can see lacy is a bum and everyone new that before the fight took place and a win for calzaghe over lacy was a foregone conclusion for 99% of boxing opion.
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:rofl:rofl:rofl

I ****ing love it! People forget SO QUICKLY!!!
Fact is, Lacy was the #1 challenger at the time, the only man anyone wanted Calzaghe to fight, and Calzaghe was a HUGE underdog.

Calzaghe ruined him.

Paulie · Jan 23, 2008

dan-B...in your dreams...

sean · Jan 23, 2008

Paulie said:

dan-B...in your dreams...
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he will most probably answer for himself may already have done as i post.

he was being sarcastic.

BigBone · Jan 23, 2008

sean said:

this was the experts pick at seconsorout in the week before the fight.

"I really like Joe Calzaghe. He's done all the things necessary during his long stint as world champion, with the obvious exception of fighting someone like Jeff Lacy. But he's been a credit to the game and an inspiration for young British boxers. Which is why I hate writing the following. He'll dominate the early rounds against Jeff Lacy, before being stopped around the 10th, as youth prevails over experience and brittle hands." - Sanjeev Shetty (British correspondent)

"Call me crazy, but I have a sneaking suspicion that this fight will turn into the 2006 reincarnation of Tyson/Spinks. Calzaghe, like Spinks, is going through a period of relative inactivity. Spinks and Calzaghe were both fighters more on the downside of their respective careers facing young, powerful, knockout virtuosos. Tyson needed Spinks to unify the heavyweight division, while Lacy needs Calzaghe to make a legitimate claim as the top Super-Middleweight in the world. Lacy KO2" - Evan Korn (New York Correspondent)

"Calzaghe breaks his hand in the 2nd - Lacy breaks his face in the 3rd!" - Rish ap Wiliam (Chief Technical Officer)

"This is a tough fight to call. Will the improving, fresher Jeff Lacy prevail against the more experienced Joe Calzaghe? I believe Lacy will nick it in the closest of fights." - Clive Bernath (Editor in Chief)

"Lacy by close, but thoroughly deserved decision; too sharp, too hungry, too aggressive. Right place, right time for the IBF champion." - Mark G. Butcher (Founding Editor)

"It is speed against strength, a very hard to pick intriguing match up. Joe will secure an early lead and school Lacy. Down the stretch, the American will get in close range and will do some damage. Calzaghe by a close but well deserved decision." - Juan Pablo Manfredi (Argentinean Correspondent)

"Lacy is too young and strong for any 168 pounder right now. At 28 years of age, he is at or near his peak. After giving Lacy a fight for four or five rounds, Calzaghe will begin to wilt under Lacy's pressure and punch. Lacy in ten after a great fight." - Jerry Glick (New York Correspondent)

"I think both guys possess power as demonstrated by their KO ratios. But I like Lacy to withstand what Calzaghe throws at him. I'm not sure that Lacy can KO Calzaghe, but I believe he can stun him. I like Lacy by decision." - Tim Smith (Special Feature Writer)

"Lacy by knockout. Calzaghe is well past his prime." - Thomas Hauser (Lead Feature Writer)

"Are there overtones of Davey Moore vs. Roberto Duran about this Lacy vs. Calzaghe tilt? OK, so sometimes you have to stretch for even a symbolic point of comparison. If we judge the fight on skill and experience vs. desire and physicality then we get one result, a result where Calzaghe plays the role of Duran, on his birthday, 1983. If we think of just how well Calzaghe will have to be technically and emotionally to hold off the determined challenge of Lacy, we might get another result. The result I am looking for will be earned by the guy contesting the better fight round after round; may fate please spare us flukes or fouls! When I look at who's the better guy right now - March of 2006 - it looks, to me, like Jeff Lacy." -Patrick Kehoe (Contributing Editor)

"Lacy is still developing as a fighter, and Calzaghe has the tools to give him fits if he uses them right. But what might be the overriding theme of this fight is that Calzaghe appears to be psychologically spent as a professional fighter. With setbacks inside the ring and personal problems outside of it, his enthusiasm for the game appears to be waning. In terms of motivation and momentum, then, Lacy has the clear edge, and I see him earning a KO or TKO win sometime in the middle rounds." - Matthew Wells (Feature Writer)

"Joe Calzaghe has been a good super middleweight world champion for a long time, but he has left it too late in his career to step up a level. Jeff Lacy is the future and he is only going to get better under trainer Dan Birmingham, who is one of the sport's most underrated. Lacy's work with Birmingham, and Winky Wright, who Dan also trains, is going to see Lacy even better for this fight. I don't think the 2am start will affect Lacy, he is the younger of the two. Lacy wants to really prove himself, hence him willing to travel to the UK for this fight. He is younger, stronger and hits harder than Lacy. Calzaghe's history of hand problems could also work against him. In a thrilling fight while it lasts, Lacy will win by stoppage. Lacy KO4." - Paul Upham (Contributing Editor)

as you can see lacy is a bum and everyone new that before the fight took place and a win for calzaghe over lacy was a foregone conclusion for 99% of boxing opion.
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:rofl:rofl:rofl This is killer staff man. I just can't and I don't need to add anything to that.

sambob · Jan 23, 2008

Who the hell cares?

The only TRUTH about the matter, is that NOBODY knew that much about Lacy before the fight, and the people making those predictions knew very little about Calzaghe before the fight, which makes sense. Cazlaghe has only had ONE fight in his entire career against a prime A level fighter. And we don't even know THAT much about Kessler to begin with, though its obvious he's pretty talented.

Bodysnatcher · Jan 23, 2008

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PATSYS · Jan 23, 2008

Lacy was overrated but the way Joe Calzaghe handled him was very impressive.

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