Calzaghe left a massive void when he retired. The SMW division in particular.

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  1. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The OP is right, the SMW hasn't been the same since Froch chased Calzaghe into retirement.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No show Joe played it safe and coasted thru his career without out taking any risks.

    His legacy is tarnished because of it and his fans will desperatly attempt to prop him up on some false pedastal.
     
    dinovelvet, Jun 23, 2013
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  3. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    I literally can't believe what i'm seeing here, you have just 75 vcash :lol::lol::lol::rofl:patsch

    Is that some kind of mis-print or do you genuinely know absolutely nothing about boxing :oops::lol::rofl
     
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  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    How is it better when Wards best win is past best, rusty Kessler? Do explain :oops:
    :lol::patsch

    Looks like Cantona scores again :good

     
    bailey, Jun 23, 2013
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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yet you rate Ward whos best win is past best Kessler :patsch
     
    bailey, Jun 23, 2013
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah because the best wins of Groves, Oosthuizen, Rodriguez is?
    Magee when prime was being beaten by past best Reid, so that shows a lack of knowledge on your part when you rate Magee because of what he has done past prime, which shows the division to be weaker. As we know, though, you werent watching the division back then and are too young to really comment
     
    bailey, Jun 23, 2013
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  7. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bika also stepped in for hypejob Andre Dirrell, had Bika been given the full time schedule and focus one can only imagine him giving Andre Ward a bigger beating. Andre Ward actually thought he can out headbutt Sakio Bika :lol:, he was given a rude awakening.
     
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  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah thats right because Froch won a world title over a year after Calzaghe left the division and had done what when Calzaghe was prime. Same as Froch saying Groves hasnt done enough and dismissing him and Cleverly
     
    bailey, Jun 23, 2013
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  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ward did struggle with Bikas equally rough fighting
     
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  10. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Groves, Oosthuizen and Rodriguez are upcomers, I never said they were good. Them three along with Degale are contenders for the future. They can either turn out to be good, or turn out to be Mario Veits, Tocker Pudwill.

    Magee is a bum/fringe contender in this era, Robin Reid was a long reigning champ in the Calzaghe era, they are not comparable.

    Compare Robin Reid to Lucian Bute instead, and compare Brian Magee to Glen Catley instead.
     
    realsoulja, Jun 23, 2013
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It is with due respect when I say, on this subject you are not very educated and didnt get to watch the division, dont take it personally, but I cant take it too serious when yiou try and comment on an era that you know little of and fighters you know little of, otherwise you wouldnt have fallen into the Magee part.
    I think Groves and co, are above Pudwill who was a late sub for Calzaghe and former Ottke opponent, but Veit? We will see if they can surpass that and score some wins as good as he did.
    Once again, lack of knowledge. Reid wasnt a long running champ, he made a few defences, but wasnt long running. Please just stick to this era which Im sure you have/do follow. Reid was past best and no longer a champ when beating undefeated Magee and putting down about 4 times. Reid was supposed to be Magees jump up
     
    bailey, Jun 23, 2013
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  12. Eric cantona

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  13. Jordan_Davies

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    Im sorry but you lost all validity when you claimed Mario Veit and Richie Woodhall was a better win than Sakio Bika
     
    Jordan_Davies, Jun 23, 2013
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  14. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why are we comparing a guy with a title reign of 3+ years to a guy with a title reign of 10+?
     
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  15. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No problem mate, some older folk just won't accept anything from the younger generation, it has been that way for centuries. Maybe it is out of arrogance, maybe it is out of dementia, or maybe they just believe old is gold. I may treat a young buck in a similar fashion if I reach them stages. Just keep taking that medication and dementia pills, and it will be all ok.
     
    realsoulja, Jun 23, 2013
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