Calzaghe left a massive void when he retired. The SMW division in particular.

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  1. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Ward is the only one of today that gives prime Cazlaghe a tough fight.
     
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  2. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    :lol::rofl
     
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  3. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You didnt focus on my actual post, Ward is irrelevant at this point, I never said he has a better resume than Calzaghe, and I never said Kessler was his best win either, so dont chat about that.

    Im just talking about actual skill level, you know, by "watching" fights rather than use your favourite tool boxrec to support your arguments.

    Its irrefutable than Joes record is very weak, in fact its almost pathetic given that he has elite level skills.
     
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  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    So Bikas best win is arguable between Soliman, Manfredo or Periban

    Woodhall beat Branco a top SMW and LHW world champ, Catley a top SMW and SMW world champ, Malinga a SMW world champ, Nardiello a world rated and former SMW world champ.

    The win Calzaghe had over Veit was a very good victory.
    The first time Calzaghe beat Veit, Veit was 30-0 and hadnt beaten anyone of real note, hence he was blown away in a round by Calzaghe.
    When Calzaghe beat Veit a 2nd time Veit was an accomplished world rated 45-1 fighter who had some solid victories behind him, was an interim world champ and was top 10 rated.
    Veit had beaten undefeated Dziarra who wasnt a great fighter but did go on to beat L Mock and undefeated M Oral who would go on to challenge MW champs A Abraham and S Sylvester recently.
    Veit had also beaten beaten undefeated Guerrero for the European union title.
    Veit beat future title challenger Salem and Mock.
    Veit also beat world rated C Brewer with an educated destructive 9th round KO to win the title.
    A note on Veit. He only ever lost to world champs or fighters who became world champs and has victories over Mock, Salem, Perdermo (a future Kessler challenger), Brewer when Brewer was world rated and Veit beat undefeated Braehmer who became the WBO LHW champ who never lost his title in the ring.

    Who did Bika beat as good as Brewer?
    Also a great away victory for Calzaghe in Germany

    We are not. I noted that Calzaghe left a void, as fighters he beat years ago are winning titles in this era when past their best, which shows how weak the current era is and only looks better because fighters Calzaghe dominated fight evenly against each other in this era

     
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  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Calzaghe running for the hills left a void alright . He was the only boxer who couldn't seem to throw a legitimate punch. He slapped like a little girl
     
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  6. bailey

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  7. reed_man02

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    the smw has been one of the hottest division over the last five years, wtf are you talking about. if anything, calzaghe left when the division was starting to heat up.

    calzaghe is considered a slightly better version of ottke. fans can only wonder how good both could have been if they actually tested themselves against the best. since they didn't, both of their legacies suffer.
     
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  8. Above Deck

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    It's a shame Calzaghe never tested himself against the best.
    His butt hurt fans will continue to try and drum it into the forums that he is an ATG - but in reality he is a 'could've been'.
     
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  9. Joe.Boxer

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    Are you two lovebirds ******ed?
     
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  10. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    They've both got giant dongers swinging from their hideous metre high foreheads :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:patsch
     
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  11. reed_man02

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    you are part of the chincheckers team and you are calling someone else ******ed.:rofl:patsch
     
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  12. Loudon

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    Bailey,

    WOW!

    I can't believe you're still asking these questions. :lol:

    This must be the 100th time that you've posted them.

    Only you, could compare stats between:


    A guy who retired at 36, after 46 fights.


    A guy who's only 29, and is still ACTIVE, having only had 26 fights.


    Ha! You're comparing Andre to Joe, and Joe has 20 MORE fights on his resume. :lol:


    Why don't we compare Ward stats against Joe's stats, but only up until the Will McIntyre fight. Otherwise, what's the point? :good
     
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  13. realsoulja

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  14. Joe.Boxer

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    I didn't call someone ******ed, I asked if they were.

    Learn to read, you pea-brained berk :finger.
     
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  15. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    I've just checked weed mans profile and I literally cannot believe what I am seeing :shock:

    In over 7 years on esb he has received just 55 profile views :lol::lol::lol::rofl:patsch

    I have since double checked to ensure that there was no mis-print and to my complete astonishment, my initial check was infact correct :deal

    55 profiles views over 7 years equates to just 8 profile views per year, 0.66 profile views per week, he's an absolute ****ing disgrace :lol:
     
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