Calzaghe - Most Overrated Fighter

he should have fought chad dawson...that would have been a great fight...

 

No, lad.

Either you weren't there or you're trying to rewrite history to suit your own biases.

Several threads made right after the Hopkins fight, some with polls attached, CLEARLY show that the majority of fans wanted to see Calzaghe fight Jones more than any other opponent.

Lampley, Merchant and Manny Steward all called for the Jones match-up on the night of the Hopkins fight.

Check the threads from after the Hopkins fight.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60206


Lewis, Toney and Hopkins all predicted a Jones win.

About half the posters predicted the same.

Some of these same fans who predicted a Jones win BEFORE the fight, Pooh-poohed the fight AFTER Calzaghe won.


I personally wanted him to fight Dawson, who was the ONLY serious challenge left under 175. And I felt that would have been a 50-50 proposition.

But I completely understand why he took the Jones fight.






(And while you're checking, you could check who the forum to see who they felt won the Hopkins fight,


http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3875

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3889

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3888)

 

Agreed.:good

 

he brought out the criminal in old hopkins which had been lye-ing dormant for 20 years,no fighter can hold a greater aclaim than that IMO!

that is his biggest acheievement,the showmanship against rj,the switch of tactics against kessler,the boxing clinic against lacy,the domination of eubank,the bravado against reid and the destruction of mitchell all come a close second!!

p.s you lot have been busy

p.p.s my dads bigger than all of yours!

p.p.p.s oh not the hopkins thing again,people really need to watch that shitfest again rather than waiting a year and hopeing that time will change the outcome/way of looking at it,it really was a diabolical performance from both fighters 12 rounds of calzaghe pushing the pace and hopkins hanging on the ropes waiting to land the right hand,what was amazing was just how bad they made each other look and just how much each took the other out of his game,but calzaghe being the champion he is finds a way to win,simple as!!

i had it 116-111 calzaghe it was pretty clear cut to me on first viewing and on subsequent viewings (in fact i had the kessler fight closer) now i like to think that i know a bad decision when i see one and the only wrong decision on that night was the one made by adelaide byrd,that was the true robbery!

 

Can you post a link for this?

 

Taking drugs in sport is abysmal, but that doesn't mean that dancing around slapping the **** out of a guy who had been shot for years isn't shameful. It is. Because one thing is wrong doesn't make the other right.

And fights where shot fighters get a licking should not be used to justify the horrid spectacle that was Calzaghe v Jones, they are simply other examples of a foul tradition that we should be condemning, not promoting.

Though to be honest, I don't recall any other examples where a man flew round the world promoting a fight and fooling his idiotic fans when the guy he was fighting was someone he said was shot years before.

"Yeah but fighters say stuff like that all the time". That's a pretty poor statement from you, as a boxing fan. Calzaghe made that comment before any fight with Jones was mooted, he had no reason whatsoever to say anything other than his true opinion - especially considering it was in his own autobiography! Honestly Cuch, you are better than that sort of comment. Calzaghe said it so he is accountable for it, merely saying that he might have not meant it is, well, pretty pathetic.

Your statement is very obviously a fan's defence of Calzaghe, which is fair enough. But any boxing fan knows that Jones was shot to pieces and had been for a long time. The cast-iron evidence was in his last 6 performances prior to the Calzaghe debacle. Anyone who thought Jones had a prayer in that fight or still ranked him in the top 10 light-heavyweights was in a deluded dreamworld. Check all my posts from before the Jones-Calzaghe fight, I never ever said anything different.

You are a Calzaghe fan, but I just don't understand why you can't condemn that "fight".

If Pacquiao organized a fight right now with a man who had been sparked two of the last three times he had fought world-level opponents (and lost the other on points) and had for the past 3 years been reduced to fighting non top 10 opponents (and ancient fat welterweights), I would be livid, gutted, and ashamed.

But he never would. And you know it. :good

 

excellent post.

and in writing that you've really encapsulated why threads on calzaghe go so long and why it will keep cropping up.....because we're talking about a skilled and legitimate world champion who never fought a proven world class fighter in his prime - and i cant think of anyone of calzaghe's ability who genuinely sought to encourage that within his own career for the sake of a steady and relatively low-risk income.

thats the irony that is calzaghe. those who grew up on calzaghe and were inspired by him arent going to let their pride let go of the judgments of others, but then again the illusionary side of modern day boxing, 'world champion' and 'undefeated', are going to be their defence - even though these are the two ambiguous most ambiguous labels in probably any sports today (as they exist in boxing).

calzaghe was a great, and wasted, talent.

 

I think Kelly Pavlik is the most over rated.

 

Sorry "lad" but this is why nobody takes you calslappy fans seriously. I was here during the Calzaghe and Jones thing, and it was quite clearly the major opinion on this forum that Calzaghe should either fight Hopkins, Pavlik or Dawson and that Jones was seen as shot.

Jones was seen as a shot fighter, by almist everyone., Come the night of the fight, due to what always happens when a fight is near, quite a few people started to lean towards selecting Roy Jones Jr to win the fight. However, the vast majority still picked him to lose.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101827

As you can see in this thread I posted before the fight.

Actually read through the thread and you will see the majority saw that Jones had no shot.

Meaningless. Lewis and Hopkins also picked Hatton to beat Floyd. Fighters are the worst guys to consult on who they think will win a fight. Clearly Lewis and Hopkins didnt see Jones against Tito and realize he wasnt the Roy Jones they knew during their careers. Fighters more often then not pick from the heart, then from the head.



You Calslappy fans need to stop trying to change history. Joe called Roy shot himself. Roy was obviously shot considering how bad he looked against tito and Hanshaw. It was a pathetic fight. And a disgrace. Showing the career path that Calzaghe had set for himself.

 

WHEN YOU ARE NOT ON THE SUBJECT OF FLOYD, YOU MAKE SOME EXCELLENT POSTS!

Every word of your post is true.

:happy:happy:happy

 

look y' ****in alt acount missfit We are taking this very seriously cant you tell...

now Just recently, within the last couple of days, (I was) advised by appointed experts that there's a mental ******ation issue here on esb. And by law, we have to explore it. We have no choice hence my presence on your thread..

now i am about to make your sorry ass my new pet project,my cat has recently died and i have a void to fill slickster

 

These threads need to be kept in the Classic Boxing Forums. Calzaghe is retired now.

 

Calzaghe was once a decent puncher, he only started the Slap after damaging his hands.
You could say that JC too was over the hill when facing RJJ or Hopkins. We will just never know.

 

Collective mediocrity stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd,

now If like me you are ridin' ahead of the herd , then show some compassion, take a look back every now and then to make sure it is still there because it is looking distinctly depleted nowadays yet the hangers on still cling together in sad,last ditch attempt,clandestine like foursomes hence this thread...

now I disagree with your psychiatrist’s assertion that you are in fact depressed, because I too have a serotonin imbalance. I’m pretty sure the real reason is: your just a *****...

a question for you slickster my man: Do illiterate people get the full effect of Alphabet Soup?