Calzaghe - Most Overrated Fighter

second this:good

 

"It was that MANY believed he would win, including many serious posters on here, many experts and many boxers.
MORE thought he would lose. But it was about a 40 -45 % sized group of both lay and experts who favoured Roy.
My initial post to Danny Rand was not to show that Roy was the favourite.
It was to refute HIS point that EVERYONE KNEW THE FIGHT WAS A FOREGONE CONCLUSION.
Calzaghe was the favourite.
But a slight favourite."
So you're conceding the fact that Joe was a favorite and yet claiming that he was a small favorite? Fine really you're 'point' is proven. Honestly if you're going to talk like this why don't you just come out and say that I CUCHI, FELT THAT BOTH FIGHTERS ROY AND JOE HAD AN EVEN CHANCE AT WINNING THE FIGHT, NEITHER BEING FAVORED, instead of talking like a dam pom pom. You're still building up Calzaghe's win over Roy as some dam present day miracle. Also just stop talking statistics cause you're CLEARLY pulling all these stupid numbers out of your ass ( example: MORE thought he would lose. But it was about a 40 -45 % sized group of both lay and experts who favoured Roy. ) to justify your own assumption that Joe was a favorite but only a slight favorite. You have no clue about statistics, and argue in a dam circle.

My conclusion.... you must be a woman.

 

Calzaghe was a 4/11 favourite with British Bookmakers.

 

No.

You still haven't got it.

Not even close.

I'll take another crack at explaining it to you.

I never said that I thought it would be a close fight.

I posted well before the fight that Jones had very little chance here. He might have landed a big shot to turn things around, but that was unlikely.

I posted that I would have preferred Calzaghe to fight Dawson, the ONLY active LHW who would be a 50-50 against him.

I said that IN MY OPINION, Jones' chances were slim.

However, I understood his reasons for taking the fight (Money etc. Two fighters at the end of their careers, cashing in.)


I also said that while I, Cuchulain did not see this as a close fight, MANY EXPERTS AND OTHER POSTERS SAW IT DIFFERENTLY, making Calzaghe a slight favourite.

In contrast to my OWN opinion that it was a mismatch.

(The experts can be wrong. I picked BHop over Pavlik, even though most experts made Pavlik the favourite. I also picked Bernard over Tarver)


Danny Rand's point was that it was widely felt to be a mismatch BEFORE the fight took place.

In refuting his point, I have proven that MANY (NOT INCLUDING ME) felt it could go either way.


Is that too complicated for you ?



I posted two months before the fight that I was 95 % certain Calzaghe would win.


The thing you need to separate in your mind is MY opinion of how the fight would go from what MANY thought.


I also stated that my opinion of both fighters wouldn't change if (when) Joe beat Roy, as Roy was past his best.

I also stated BEFORE and AFTER the fight that PRIME Roy would have beaten ANY version of Joe.

I have in other threads, posted that I felt Prime Roy, at 168 would beat ANY 168 ever. And most at 175 too.

I have also posted that I thought Roy was the best fighter of the past 25 years.


How much clearer can I make it.

Again, before they fought, I posted that the result would not change my opinion of either fighter, due to Roy's decline

Those figures were pulled out of past polls taken on this forum, and in articles by commentators, that showed Joe to be, IN THEIR OPINION, a slight favourite.

It's called backing up your point with EVIDENCE, something you appear unfamiliar with.

Just because the point is a little too complicated for your limited grasp, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the stats.

Does this kind of drivel even need a response ?


Other than that you're none too bright, and should avoid all but the simplest debate ?

 

You are a woman.

 

Well that settles it then.

Clearly, your debating skills are too awesome.

You da man !




























(You might want to check your sorry arsehole for rectal bleeding, given the ass-raping you just suffered.)

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60460&page=16


As you can see. Roughly 65% for Calslaps. And 35% for Roy Jones Jr. Not close to the 45% you envisioned.


Quite clearly Calslaps was seen as the favorite in the fight.


Once again Calslaps trying to change history. "I will not fight Roy Jones jr, he's been knocked out too many times"

Sure joe. Sure.

What money? Don King was giving away tickets in the streets.

 

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/boxing/blog/2008/11/predictions_on_the_joe_calzagh.html


I was also factoring in the 'experts' who had it 56 % to 44 %.

 

3 out of 4 experts agree that you are indeed a woman. Seeing as you are an expert in both statistics and boxing, I'll let you figure out who that one person who disagrees is.

 

wheres dinamita?