Calzaghe Only Faced Bums In His WBO Title Reign? THE PROPER BREAKDOWN.

Isnt Froch fighting G Johnson next who will be 42 at fight time and whos SMW record is

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Just a note on G Johnsons SMW career -
In 12 SMW fights Johnson has lost 6 of them.
Johnson has lost at SMW to -

M Sosa who had 5 losses and 2 draws, and lost his next 2 fights after beating Johnson
Kiwanuka who had 3 losses and 2 draws, had lost his last 2 fights coming into his fight with Johnson and his fight after Johnson
Ottke 16-0 who in fairness was an outstanding SMW boxer
Vanderpool 27-1 who lost his next fight, but in fairness that was at MW to Hopkins and Vanderpool had a good run after
Branco 38-4-2 who was a world class SMW and became WBA LHW champ
Sheika who was 19-1 and lost his next fight, though in fairness that was to Calzaghe.

The SMWs that Johnson has managed to beat
Campas 3-20-4 coming off of only 2 losses and won his next fight
Watson 24-16-1, Johnson was his last fight
Renteria 9-23-5 coming in, whos last 10 fight record before facing Johnson was 0-8-2
Zimmerman 15-2-0 coming in, who had lost his previous fight and the one after
A Green 29-2-0 coming in and Johnsons biggest SMW victory

Its not impressive now is it. Please spare me the robbery talk.
If any rated SMW losses to Johnson it wont look good on their resume.

Wasnt A Abraham coming off of a defeat when Froch fought him?

Who had Dirrell and Pascal beaten when Froch fought them at SMW that makes them so great for his resume.

Wasnt J Taylor only one fight past suffering 2 defeats in a row and lost his next fight after Froch, and Froch was only his 2nd SMW fight for a few years

 

Glen Johnson is part of the Super6 tournament, it aint like Froch has a choice between an Old man (Glen Johnson, Roy Jones Jr) and a upcoming challenger (Dawson, Pavlik, Pascal) -

- You know what I am talking about there now dont you.

Froch has to fight Glen Johnson. Calzaghe didnt Have to fight Roy Jones Jr.

I hope you understand the above point.

We all know, that the Glen Johnson which Froch is going to fight, is far more of a threat than the Roy Jones Jr that Calzaghe ended his career on.

Fact 1: Glen Johnson hasnt displayed a glass jaw in his whole career, while Roy Jones was displaying his in losses before and after Calzaghe. Yet still Calzaghe the KO Specialist (See reference Video 1), wasnt able to drop him but got dropped himself.

Fact 2: Glen Johnson has taken champions in Cloud, and Dawson to the wire. Roy Jones Jr failed to finish off a shot, fat, bloated, ex Welterweight fighting at Light Heavyweight Felix Trinidad.

Fact 3: Glen Johnson has wins over Allan Green, and Yusuf Mack recently who were top 10 rated fighters in their respective divisions. Roy Jones had wins over Prince Badi and Hanshaw who no one gives a **** about

Fact 4: Glen Johnson has scored KO victories over top 10 ranked fighters in his last two wins, Roy Jones Jr hasnt scored a KO win over a top 10 ranked fighter since Clinton Woods.

Fact 5: Before Roy Jones Jr fought Joe Calzaghe he had 3 fights in 2 years showing him to be very inactive compared to Glen Johnson who has had 5 fights, 4 of them being top 10 ranked.

Fact 6: Froch has to fight Glen Johnson or he forfeits his belts and Super6 place. Calzaghe didnt have to fight Roy Jones Jr, but needed some crack cocaine money.

Abraham > Jeff Lacy.

Froch schooled him in a way that hasnt been done, Abraham aint finished, he is a former world champion.

Why narrow it down to only Super Middleweight, Pascal went on to become the #1 in the Light heavy weight division, Kessler didnt do that in his division but got beaten up by unknown Ward.

Dirrell is a decent win, but has shown enough potential.

If Froch beats Glen Johnson:-

Glen Johnson > Roy Jones Jr
Pascal > Kessler
Dirrell < BHop
Abraham > Lacy
Taylor > Eubank

 

Reference Video 1

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is that a photo from our recent christmas party at TEAM ELITE HQ 46? if so, can you put up that photo where i was play spar-ing with vitali and ended up shattering his eye socket?

 

happy new year, glad you feel up to talking :rofl

 

soldier is a p4p top 10 poster on esb, he has never ducked a question in his life. he stands alone as the only hopkins fan on esb capable of extending team elite. thats why he commands respect :thumbsup

 

Oh those team elite parties

 

...No he wasnt a legend BUT clearly was the hottest **** in boxing at the time thou' ! ...and was undefeated and was fighting for the title's that early in his career ,he (hopkins) did'nt wait til' his 40th fight to take on these type of challenges like calzaghe did'... besides lacy an unproven friday night fights espn fighter who built his record on fighting bums....the best on calzaghe resume is when he fought 40 year old hopkins and jones who get always ko'd by whisper's in his ears..CALZAGHE REALLY PUT HIS BALLS ON THE LINE IN HIS LAST 2-3 FIGHTS'....LMFAO

 

you remember when b-hop was busting them moves on the dance floor with all that ***** around him and then zaggers snook up behind hopkins and did the boogie woogie on him again

b-hop thought everyone was looking and laughing at his dancing when in truth everyone was actually pointing and laughing at zaggers clowning him again :rofl

got to give b-hop credit though, he had all the vanilla ice moves off to a T wha:

 

Usually people who are drawn into battle with myself, aint conditioned to do the full 15 rounds and usually quit on their stools 2 rounds in.

Those with shaky chins get put on ***** street, and then they try to find some common agreement so they can retreat A.S.A.P, with their dignity intact.

Those with glass jaws, usually crack and change the topic to something that has nothing to do with the topic, and then disappear for a few hours.

Hypejobs think they can go toe to toe, but after a few rounds I send the Euro hypejobs back into the European forum, the British hypejobs back in the British forum and the American hypejobs in the lounge.

And if I batter them so badly enough, I send them into retirement into the Classic forum, never to be seen again in the General forum.

Although I use bailey as my sparring partner, my wars with Team Elite are up there with legendary rivalrys such as Benn-Eubank, Barrera-Morales, Holyfield-Bowe, and have proven to be difficult at times. Regardless.

 

soldier v bailey has been nothing short of epic this year, you 2 are proper radjed in the ****in brain :rofl

 

Glen Johnson beat a fresher, younger better Roy Jones Jr than Calzaghe did. Since then Glen Johnson has remained as a force and hasnt been called shot by anyone, but RJJ has been called shot.

You got fans of Glen Johnson, and haters of Froch, here on ESB making threads that Glen will beat Froch. I picked RJJ to beat Calzaghe based on hate. It happens.

I dont think it is debatable.

Glen Johnson has the better chin and power that makes him tough. RJJ has the better speed that makes him tricky.

Ok Calzaghe not getting the KO isnt relevant, moving on: What I said is Glen Johnson has a better chin than Roy Jones Jr. Even if he looked shaken by Woods or not, this is something anyone agrees with.

Ask glass jaw expert 46and0, who has a better chin, Glen Johnson or Roy Jones Jr. You will get your answer.

Point here was, Glen Johnson was good enough to be sharing the ring with champions, while RJJ was in their with Trinidad. But if you want to discuss losses, RJJ loss to Danny Green is more shamefull, than winning minimum 10 out of 24 rounds vs Champions in cloud and Dawson.

Johnson not only beat better opposition than RJJ in recent fights (Mack and Green > Hanshaw and Badi) But he beat them with ease while RJJ still looked nothing like his prime best. Indicating Johnson is alot tougher than RJJ.

We are comparing Glen Johnson and Roy Jones Jr, who was more active? who stayed fighting fit?

The answer is none other than Glen Johnson.

This doesnt add or take away absolutely nothing to the discussion entitled "Who is more tougher the Glen Johnson that will fight Carl Froch, or the Roy Jones Jr that will fight Calzaghe?"

You think Froch beat AA based on the blueprint of Dirrell DQ AA. I disagree.

Dirrell used his reach to keep a distance, and used his speed to keep AA off him, when reaching the championship rounds speed slowly decreases hence why AA was able to get into the inside more often in the later rounds.

Froch used his reach to keep a distance, and used his power/strength to keep AA off him, when reaching the championship rounds power will still be there hence why Froch kept AA off him for the full fight.