Calzaghe Only Faced Bums In His WBO Title Reign? THE PROPER BREAKDOWN.

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  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the fact of the matter is

    it is exposure of calzaghe because his competition is pretty lame
     
  2. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    SOmething there is not a fact. The title. "Bum" is subjective. Not a fact.
     
  3. DINAMITA

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    Of course it didn't garner as much respect - it was looking at the messiah critically, I knew it wouldn't be popular.

    Not objective? Point me out anything at all that's untrue then please. How can something not be objective when it's just a fact?

    It doesn't matter who he could or couldn't have fought, that won't matter in time. What will matter is his actual resume, the facts :

    the men he did fight.

    And these are they whether you like it or not.

    :hi:
     
  4. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Read the posts brainiac. Above the line - fact (except one sentence about Mitchell's resume). Below the line- opinion, ie subjective.
     
  5. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sad, very sad....
     
  6. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought you would be the type above using silly emots to try and be dismissive, but apparently not.

    OK then. I'll tell you what, by your logic we should hate on Rocky Marciano and Larry Holmes because their resumes aren't as strong as they might be simply due to the fact that there weren't fighters around that would signficantly add to their legacies...


    You have a very one dimensional way of analysing these things, which is why your thread has largely been laughed at and not because it's attacking the hugely divisive figure of Joe Calzaghe....

    Calzaghe is the same as the aforementioned fighters and it's not his fault that his main rival was **** scared to take him on.... Nonetheless, his legacy is good contrary to your spin bull****....the best in a young divisions history and whether you like it or not, that is how he will be remembered.

    :smoke
     
  7. BadJuju83

    BadJuju83 Bolivian Full Member

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    Maybe writing WHO? after most of the names on the list is what gave the impression to some you were being judgemental and derogotory towards his resume.
     
  8. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    An interesting look at the cold hard facts of Calzaghe's reign but you can't judge a fighter purely off boxrec. Other factors, like with every boxer, need to be brought into the equation.

    Like Reid should have been a two-time world champion after beating Ottke and therefore Calzaghe would have unified earlier by fighting the best in the division.

    Or that Byron Mitchell debatedly beat Ottke as well and he knocked Calzaghe down for the first time ever, but Joe proceeded to stop him that very round.

    Such facts transform those two wins.

    But I agree, Joe's resume isn't that great
     
  9. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    You are being rather childish I think, both in your comments and in the importance you place on the respective opinions of the people who reply on any given thread. Of course I knew the criticisms and derision would follow, it always does when you are critical of a much-loved fighter. However, if I feel something is worth saying, I will do so regardless of the likely effect on my ESB popularity.

    We should not "hate" on Holmes or Marciano in the same way I refuse to "hate" on Joe Calzaghe. That is a very infantile point to make, as if you read my second part of the thread-start where I give my opinion, I acclaim Joe's talents. There is no hate in this thread whatsoever, and I cannot see how or where you can detect any. I am merely trying to prove a point I believe in - that Joe's resume is weak. Simple as that.
     
  10. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I am judgemental and derogatory of the fact that men with these records were ever allowed to fight for a world title. And quite rightly so.
     
  11. bizzer07

    bizzer07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i cant understand why you spent the time and effort trieing to show your hate for Joe Calzaghe. It doesnt impress me and for ****ing sure it doesnt change anything about my respect for joe Calzaghe. I'm not going to change my opinion because some sad little hater spends his pathetic time trying to justify his hate towards a boxer deserving of a hell of alot of respect.

    You should know in boxing, it only takes a punch to win.
     
  12. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm being childish? You're the one that used the dismisive icon at the end of your post mate. You make derisive comments throughout your breakdown of Calzaghes career rather than staying totally neutral and objective, so forgive me and the rest for detecting any ah...'hate' coming from you.

    You believe Calzaghes resume is weak, that's cool I doubt anyone really gives a ****...what is generally regarded as fact is simply this....

    Joe Calzaghe is the greatest Super Middleweight in history, one of the finest fighters of his era and a top 10 ATG British fighter, a sure fire hall of fame fighter.

    I think those facts hurt you, hence why the only reason your really known on these forums is because of the hate filled posts you make about Joe Calzaghe...

    :hi:
     
  13. loko

    loko Active Member Full Member

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    Yo Pac your meant to be at uni dude why the **** do you have so much time on your hands?

    And i have this to say; I could do the same for any fighter,.....................thats right any fighter. MANY OF WHOM HAVE MUCH WEAKER resumes than joes. Your right in what you say; a talented fighter never reaching his potential, as in maximizing the star quality of his opposition. Realistically however you neglect to add as a necessary appendage that the only two other people he COULD have realistically fought were MC and Jones JR.

    This ofcourse puts perspective on your statement, which was badly needed because although you did succinctly answer the question you set yourself that; 'Calzaghe Only Faced Bums In His WBO Title Reign? THE PROPER BREAKDOWN'. Posting **** like that on here causes that proportion of the posters on here that are ******s, to get carried away with what they read without rationalizing it and placing the statement in perspective with regards to time and place and all other appropriate variables needed to come to a measured conclusion. Just look at what 'WALK WITH ME' wrote, you see that guy got carried away making himself look like a child and a ****** and in truth its all your fault. Your causing these kids to repeatedly cum in thier cloths dude, thats a lot of washing for thier mums, **** if they even have one.

    You have to realise that not everyone has the same level of education and thus ability to construct an argument as you. People are easily lead as both you and particularily I know. Your bare a responsability and your abusing it. And your meant to be back here with me i've started back dude, Strathclyde started classes on the 22nd?
     
  14. DINAMITA

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    I don't think I'm going to change anyone's opinion, I just presented some facts about his resume. If you disagree with it, say why or **** off and take your childish accusations of "hate" with you.
     
  15. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His breakdown's utter **** anyway mate and he also fails to take into consideration some of the defences were mandatories and that his favourite Tocker Pudwill was a late replacement...

    I'm a Calzaghe fan and there are certain fights I believe he should have pushed harder for (DM) but hey, it's still been a great career for the ATG number 1 at SMW.