Calzaghe Only Faced Bums In His WBO Title Reign? THE PROPER BREAKDOWN.

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  1. Loggo

    Loggo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bailey,just give it up pal.:tired
     
  2. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess you're right. Joe's reign as 2nd GOAT is in serious jeopardy as the great Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is fast closing in.
     
  3. Drinker

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    Bollocks mate, simply bollocks.

    The day after Pascal & Hopkins this forum was heaving with Calzaghe haters. You were one of them, posting crap because you thought Hopkins was finished when Calzaghe beat him. You lot were gutted that Hopkins looked so good.

    This place was riddled with 'newbies' hating on Joe - posting bruceblitz's biased Joe Cazlaghe deception...

    *********** was the same; infected with threads hating on Cazlaghe. I'd never seen anything like it.

    LOL, all the Cazlaghe haters pissed off because Hopkins looked so good against Pacal.
     
  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In fairness. The nite after the Hopkins/Pascal fight, this site was inundated with threads about Calzaghe, his legacy, how he'd beat Michael Spinks, etc....... I got so fed up, that I bumped this thread. Every time a former Calzaghe opponent does anything, it happens.
     
  5. Joe.Boxer

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  6. Smazz20

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    In fairness, that happens to any fighter, especialy any fighter who has left so many question marks as Calzaghe. But keep in mind that many people seem to ridicule Calzaghe's fans for saying that Hopkins has achieved x amount since Calzaghe beat him. Yet those same people ridicule Calzaghe for Lacy doing nothing after his beating, Kessler losing to Ward, etc. Then you have to hear how Hopkins was one of RJJ best wins. How was Hopkins one of RJJ best wins? What did he do beforehand? If Hopkins had of retired after losing to RJJ would he be mentioned in RJJ's legacy? Yet because of what Hopkins has done after that defeat he gets mentioned as one of RJJ's top 3 wins, maybe his best in some cases.
     
  7. realsoulja

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    So how can you accuse me of saying Hopkins was finished

    Regardless, I also said Calzaghe chapter is closed, Calzaghe is sniffing coke while BHop is enhancing his legacy.

    Calzaghe fans where still, and are still adament that Calzaghe ranks higher than BHop in the ATG ranks.

    So this thread was bumped, and bumped well that put the ***zaghis in their rightfull places.

    The Calzaghe nutthuggers chatted **** on numerous occasions:-

    Ward beats Kessler
    Green KO RJJ
    Froch beats Abraham
    Hopkins beats Pascal

    All pissed off the Calzaghe nutthuggers, and were suportive of the Calzaghe Critics. So saying Calzaghe haters getting pissed off is just bull**** TBH.
     
  8. Auracle21

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    hopkins may have lost to calzaghe but guess what he will be higher in the career rankings. pretty easy to call that one.
     
  9. Drinker

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    The rankings for Veit were from the BBC dated i think, FEB 2001. Okay, Joe fought Veit in April 2001 but the fight was made around February 2001. Let's not get silly over this. Sadly they are the only one's I could find - but they list the top 10 rankings, in each weight class for all 4 major bodies.

    These FEB 2001 ratings also list:

    David Starie, WBC#9, WBA#7,IBF#9
    Omar Sheika, IBF#8, WBO#8
    Richie Woodhall, WBA#10, WBO#7

    Joe Calzaghe beat all three of these guys in 2000.
     
  10. Joe.Boxer

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  11. Drinker

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    What are talking about? You've lost me.

    You said the Cazlaghe fans were out in force when Hopkins schooled Pascal

    I've merely pointed out that there were a high amount of threads hating on Cazlaghe. in fact, other forums had many threads hating on Joe. The fact is Cazlaghe haters were out in force on December 19th.

    Why mention 'sniffing coke'? Don't be so sensitive!
     
  12. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought that you made an accusation that I wrote off Hopkins when you said:-

    Hopkins is one of the few fighters in the game that knows how to use his experience, and until he is in a fight where his opponent has speed, atheleticism, heart and stamina I would probably pick BHop to win. Never bet against that man.

    I never said he was finished, I thought he beat Calzaghe as did others, I think a rematch would be suited in Cardiff, Hopkins thought so, Calzaghe didnt.

    There were threads where Calzaghe fans were saying, Hopkins beat Pavlik so Calzaghe beat Hopkins who beat Pavlik. I disputed such logic with the main rule styles make fights. I aint disputing Calzaghe cant beat Pavlik, I just disputed the logic.

    Mosley beat Margarito who beat Cotto who beat Mosley who beat Mayorga who beat Forrest who beat Mosley who beat Margarito who beat Cotto who beat Quintana who beat Williams who beat Winky who beat Mosley who beat Mayorga who beat Forrest who beat Mora who drew against Mosley.

    These threads are useless, Calzaghe legacy is finished and his haters underrate him, while his fans over rate him, and his haters IMO make more sense.

    I Guarantee you after the next S6 fights, Calzaghe's name will be thrown out again.

    After Hopkins Vs Pascal II, Calzaghe name will be thrown out again. This is something I got used to, but it seems alien to you.
     
  13. Drinker

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    The point I was making was, apart from Calzaghe fans 'reappearing' there were a high number anti-Calzaghe threads in the aftermath of Hopkins vs Pascal. A huge amount of people all looking to undermine Joe because one his wins put on a great show.

    I understand what you are saying, but these threads are part of the game.

    If Kessler fights this year and loses then plenty of anti-Calzaghe threads will appear. You will be happy to gloat and contribute to them. So why take objection to pro-Calzaghe threads popping up when one of Joe's former opponents performs well.
     
  14. Auracle21

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    B hop is a better career fighter. live iwth it
     
  15. realsoulja

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    Calzaghe win over BHop doesnt mean Calzaghe would have beaten Pavlik or Pascal.

    Thats the thing that I dispute, Calzaghe is given his dues to get the scorecards close with Hopkins, but thats all it is. If Calzaghe decisivley beat Hopkins like clear cut win, then Calzaghe legacy deserves to grow with Hopkins wins.

    When Ward beat Kessler that was a hit IMO at Calzaghe's best win, but it aint a major hit as the haters make it out to be. I rank Calzaghe UD Kessler the 2nd greatest win at SMW after RJJ UD Toney back in 94. So I questioned maybe Kessler got a bit over rated. And so did many others, it comes with hindsight.

    When Green beat RJJ, there was nothing to add because RJJ was shot either way, nothing added nor taken away from Calzaghe.

    With Hopkins no one can say he is shot, but no one can say he is prime, Calzaghe gets the props for the SD win but thats all coz:-

    1. Hopkins wasnt prime nor shot
    2. SD win isnt a decisive victory

    So if Hopkins gets KO'd vs Pascal, it aint a knock at Calzaghe, and if Hopkins beats pascal it aint a plus for Calzaghe either. Calzaghe is given the respect for what he did. But would be given disrespect when measured with RJJ and BHop.