Calzaghe Only Faced Bums In His WBO Title Reign? THE PROPER BREAKDOWN.

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  1. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lets talk Hopkins, just for you realsoulja Hopkins failed to fight Gerald McClellan, Castro, Quincy Taylor, Julian Jackson, Harry Simon, Sturm, Cherifi and Calzaghe in 2002.


    Now whats the answers to the following questions:-
    Has Hopkins good a good resume ? {des3995 says Hopkins resume is no great shakes}
    Against who was Hopkins best middleweight win ? {des3995 seems unable to give a name}
    Against who was Hopkins best ever win ?
    Is Hopkins an ATG ? {if so top 100 or top 50}
    When was Hopkins prime ? {is there much difference prime wise for Hopkins between 25 and 45 ? }
     
  2. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins came out vs Pavlik and didnt fight the same.
    Calzaghe came out vs RJJ and did the same ****.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk2oiHpm9gw[/ame]

    Hopkins wanted a rematch, Calzaghe didnt want it.
     
  3. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I named names that were around for Calzaghe

    and named names that were around for Hopkins.

    There were more names around for Calzaghe than there was for Hopkins.

    Hopkins didnt have a rival he didnt beat during his reign, Calzaghe had rivals in Beyer and Ottke that he didnt beat.
     
  4. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carl Froch was WBC Mandatory when Calzaghe held the WBC, Calzaghe didnt want it.

    Ottke camp say they wanted the fight, and Calzaghe's camp say they wanted the fight. Both were just playing with each others *****.

    Thats how I can tell you dont know **** about that era of boxing.

    G-Man went up to SMW and got damaged by Benn before Hopkins won a title.

    Julian Jackson didnt hold a title at MW when Hopkins had one, and was more of the early 90's.

    Cherifi and Simon never held titles either, nor were they mandos. Hopkins and Sturm should have happend, but none of them called each other out.

    Hopkins fought Calzaghe, and was the one who made the fight. Calzaghe just sat behind Frank Warren.

    Hopkins best wins were glen Johnson and Felix Trinidad, Hopkins having the greatest resume at MW history in a division that has a long history aswell as dominating wins over young guns and the longitivity of course he a ATG.

    Hopkins physical attributes have declined and he is just winning fights based on experienced and intelligence.
     
  5. swayz

    swayz Guest

    actually...i was pulling you up on saying it was ok that b-hop didn't face sturm cos he lost to dlh (in a blatant & disgraceful robbery that shamed the sport) but in the very next sentence you criticise calzaghe for not fighting liles even tho liles was well beaten by a calzaghe victim in mitchell & was basically retired while calzaghe was champ (1 fight in 1999 losing to mitchell...next fight 2002 at 175...liles was not "around for calzaghe"...he was barely active).

    it shows you don't really know what you are talking about...you're just spouting names that you think sound good even tho they were totally unrealistic at the time...& it also shows you are a massive hypocrite because you don't apply the same standards to b-hop as you do calzaghe.

    we've been over this before...but how about rjj, taylor & now sturm? 3 middleweight rivals...not beaten by b-hop. :deal

    just sssshh little nerd. why does joe cal bother you so much? he's gone. you don't need to spend all day every day talking **** about him cos you have a weird homo crush on him.
     
  6. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cool, the facts are this:

    Calzaghe won a SD over the reigning Ring LHW champ and refused to rematch him.

    Calzaghe then defended that title against RJJ who was shot, and then retired.

    Hopkins still called him out, Calzaghe didnt respond, Hopkins is still around while Calzaghe aint.
     
  7. swayz

    swayz Guest

    further proof you are nothing but a hypocrite with different standards for different fighters.

    everyone is entitled to their opinion but you just chat ****.
     
  8. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yet again, the minions have been utterly exposed, schooled & tramped on by Team Elite. This is getting ridiculous.
     
  9. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sturm won the WBO title in september 2003, and lost in by June 2004.

    Thats 9 months.
    He wasnt #1 not even top3 MW during this time.
    He then won the title in 2006, by that time Hopkins was at LHW.

    Frankie Liles was the #1 SMW in 1997 and 1998. This was a time when Calzaghe held the WBO. While Liles lost his title in 1999.

    Those two are incomparable.

    There were more names that Calzaghe could have faced than there is for Hopkins. If you want to challenge on that you can.

    Also read above.


    Hopkins fought the greatest fighter of the 90's and lost, and fought him in the 90's. None of that ***** **** where he fought him in 2009 and thought he beat the great fighter.

    Sturm wasnt a rival, never called Hopkins out, and Hopkins was the man of the division not Sturm. Hopkins whooped Taylor in the first fight even Calzaghe admitted when Hopkins asked him, by saying 50-50. Go and score those fights, if you aint seen those fights and is basing it straight of boxrec then thats just bull****.

    Did sturm and Hopkins mention each others names? Sturm held the title for 9 months during Hopkins reign.


    I just school you ***zaghis on these topics thats all, its all good regardless.
     
  10. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    who allowed you to be included in Team Elite?

    **** outta here, you aint got the resume to be included with them. They called Team Elite for a reason.
     
  11. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why you getting upset.

    Its the truth, Ottke mentions Calzaghe's name. Calzaghe mentions Ottke's name.

    The fight never happend. Its just a case off:-

    :gayfight

    Since when can Hopkins be accused of such?
     
  12. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    lol, don't try to take your frustrations out on me, I'm merely observing.
     
  13. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lmao. Not being on the forum doesn't mean I can't answer. I am using my cell phone to do this as of right now, and may not be available to respond. I hope you can do this without me at times. But I will indulge you. And then maybe just maybe you can indulge 1 of the questions I have asked you repeatedly. .....

    What risks did Calzaghe take?

    Hopkins best win at mw was Trinidad. It cracks me up the every Calzaghe fan brings a comparison to :eek:pkins....as if that will exonerate their guy from having very few fights of consequence during his wbo reign. Hopkins was undoubtedly atop the entire heap during his mw reign. Calzaghe was atop his wbo heap.

    Somehow bringing down Hopkins resume is somehow beneficial to Calzaghe. But it is among his very best wins. How do you reconcile that?

    Hopkins prime was 97-04 and that's being generous. Only a Calzaghe fan would argue that a guy past his prime that moved up 2 weight classes at the age of 40 would be in his prime at 43. Unless you think he hasn't yet reached his prime?

    History lesson. Nobody was talking of Calzaghe's greatness until he finally came out and fought Lacy. After that he fights a couple of old guys and a couple decent guys and that's good enough for atg for you? That would be revisionist history. But isn't it always.

    PS- some of those hometown stoppages were pathetic. Watch som and tell me they weren't without saying well JC would have won the fight anyway in response.
     
  14. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins is a Welsh name, Hopkins is African American, you are not white so you say realsoulja, where did lots of African Americans get their names from, do you have an agenda that has got nothing to do with sport ?
     
  15. swayz

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    he lost that title in a total robbery.

    & regardless...you said it was ok that b-hop didn't face sturm cos he faced dlh who beat him (in a total robbery) but it was not ok that calzaghe didn't face liles even tho he faced mitchell who beat him clearly. how's that work? :huh



    from the time calzaghe won the title until liles retirement: liles fought 3 times losing twice with one of those fights being at 175. you are right; they are incomparable...but not in the way you seem to think.


    blah blah blah. either b-hop "didnt have a rival he didnt beat" or he did have rivals he didn't beat but you have excuses for those instances. which is it? if it is the latter (which is what you are saying in this post) then don't get upset when i point out that you are lying/wrong when you say the former. :nono


    cough. CHAD DAWSON. cough.
    :deal