Calzaghe Only Faced Bums In His WBO Title Reign? THE PROPER BREAKDOWN.

I really don't concern myself with the nonsense. I like to talk boxing. I have no alt accounts, bor do I know who may or may not.

My debates hardly ever go down this road.

 

whats the DINAMITA story ?

 

Look at the context I mentioned those 2 fights. A claim was made by sways that Hopkins ducked Sturm.

Sturm held the WBO title from Sept 2003 - June 2004, during that period of time Hopkins fought:-

Unification bout with William Joppy, and a mandatory defense of the IBF title against Robert Allen.

You come back here to talk **** after you couldnt respond to the two 10 - 0 whitewash thrashings in the other thread. And you come here responding to my post that was clearly in context to rebuttal Swayz claims. Your a joke.

Mosley > Margarito > Cotto > Mosley :huh > Margarito > Cotto > Quintana > Williams > Winky > Mosley:huh > Mayorga > Forrest > Mosley:huh > Mayorga > Forrest > Mora > Forrest > Mosley :huh> Mayorga > Forrest > Mora = Mosley:huh

**** outta here with that lame excuse son, you still aint responded to the two 10 - 0 whitewash thrashings.

Lacy was ****. Still ****, and probably remain ****.

That dont disprove he is ****.

doesnt disprove he is ****.

Hopkins was #1 P4P when he called out RJJ, I already showed you the video:-

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Calzaghe is the one who said give me the crown jewels I dont want it otherwise.

I remeber seeing them fight, Calzaghe the one who refused the rematch.

First time I heard this, bring your proof.

Calzaghe was not even the best in his division in 2002

Ottke was the best SMW at the time, Calzaghe and Ottke were just playing with each others pussies.

Hopkins fought jones already and asked for a rematch. Calzaghe was too ***** for a rematch.

Hopkins goes to the #1 LHW in the #1 LHW hometown and fights him. That aint no win-win situation. Bring your proof otherwise.

 

Both were just playing with each others pussies. Both were a bunch of pussies there.

This is what you said:-

Froch was the #1 WBC SMW mandatory while Calzaghe held the title, Calzaghe didnt want it.

But Peter Manfredo and Evans Ashira were OK.

Froch would have knocked him out thats why Calzaghe didnt want it.

The public were calling for Froch vs Calzaghe since 2004, calzaghe didnt oblige but was too *****.

But Tocker Pudwill and Evans Ashira and Manfredo and Starie were.

Starie was the commonwealth champ and Calzaghe took him on in an instant but not Froch.

 

Like you said :think, your rubbing your chin, I never said that it was ok or not.

Sturm held the WBO title Sept 2003 - June 2004.

Hopkins fought WBA champ Joppy and IBF Mando Robbert Allen.

Sturm held the title for 9 months and was not ranked anywhere close to Hopkins.

Liles held it for more than a year and was ranked ahead of Calzaghe.

It took Hopkins 5 years for his first unification bout, it took Calzaghe 9 years.:-(

Calzaghe didnt mention it when Liles was #1, so it werent meant to happen.

Hopkins fought every rival win lose or draw. Anyone that got ranked #2 or #3 got fought.

Calzaghe didnt fight Ottke and Beyer who reached #1 #2 and #3.

You know we were discussing their MW and SMW reigns. If we bring in their LHW achievements Calzaghe cannot measure up. Who can you accuse Hopkins playing ***** with in his MW reign.

BHop and Roy were not in the same division, Ottke and Calzaghe were. Calzaghe played ***** with people in his own division.

Hopkins won the first fight but got robbed and then KO Mercudo in the rematch. Calzaghe didnt KO no one to win the vacant title.

Hopkins fought more top 10 ranked opposition than Calzaghe did.

Hopkins fought more reigning MW champions than Calzaghe fought SMW champions.

Hopkins dominated every fight, Calzaghe struggle to overcome Bika and Reid.

Just shows Hopkins dominance better than Calzaghe's.

I agree Ring Rankings are usually bias towards American fighters. But in this case I agree. Hopkins was recognised as the main man when he beat Trinidad after 5 years, and Calzaghe got recognised as the main man after beating Lacy after 9 years.

Its the dominance.

We can agree on that.

its your opinion, I think a SD win aint better than the KO win over Johnson, or the shutout over Pavlik.

First time I heard a Calzaghe fan explain the "0" properly. His losses came he took risks, But if we look at losses and draws, we have to consider the manner he lost in. In no way was he outclassed or dominated.

Calzaghe SD Hopkins aint a dominate win, it was a scrape through win. Hopkins hasnt got any of those.

 

Abraham never called out Hopkins, was never ranked near him.

I think Froch would have beaten Calzaghe.

Calzaghe wasnt the kind that outboxes, he was good at outworking his opponent. Froch is a guy I dont see being outworked. He went wars with Kessler and Pascal, shows he is a solid 12 round fight with good work rate. Calzaghe wont hurt Froch, but Froch would hurt Calzaghe.

 

Ok I publically accept swayz didnt make that claim, and I misquoted him.

What swayz did do was compare Frankie Liles vs Calzaghe to Felix Sturm vs Hopkins.

I wronged swayz, but what I did reply to bailey still stands.

 

Swayz....didn't forget about your post.

I think. Trinidad is the best win on either guys resume. All things being equal, he is the most dangerous opponent on either. If you are going to devalue Trinidad as a mw, then why wouldn't you devalue Pavlik or Wright or even Pascal or Hopkins himself? Moving up in weight is a rite of passage for many fighters and with a fighter of Trinidads calibre, it dhouldnt lose all that much in the translation.

 

The public wanted Froch vs Calzaghe since before the Lacy Bout, Froch Called Calzaghe out before the Lacy bout aswell.