Calzaghe Only Faced Bums In His WBO Title Reign? THE PROPER BREAKDOWN.

Top Universities in Scotland :rofl

Sure, some Universities specialise in different things, and beyond undergraduate level it's more about who you study with rather than where you study....but Strathclyde, whilst having a fine reputation in terms of Business school etc etc pales in comparision to the ancient Universities like Glasgow, Edinburgh and St Andrews in terms of prestige and reputation...

Sorry for stating the truth.

 

The majority of posters on here obviously ar'nt ******s but there is a sizeable minority that undoubtably are, Fact.

 

Well that would be a bit hard considering I didn't give him a placing within the top 10...so where is your basis for comparison...

Are you simply assuming I wouldn't rate him top 5?

 

:tired :blurp

 

A truth i dont dispute you **** but the only place here that runs that masters course. What am i to do? And yes i would regard 4/5th place as a 'Top top' uni.

 

Hey calm down bucko, I have plenty of friends at Strathclyde but all I'm saying is it's a bit patronising to come on here and say to Pacfan

'Oh you, your just too darn smart for these peons, you and I, us University students, let us talk down to the underlings so they understand'

It's patronising as **** and it was punctuated by you finishing with the Strathclyde reference...good Uni but not one of thee elite. Still, I apologise for attacking it which was simply to score cheap points.

There are people on here without the aid of further education that can articulate an argument far superior to Pacfan thats for damn sure.

 

I hate calzaghe. I think he's a slapping bum.

That said, he beat kessler, lacy and hopkins...

 

You could do this to Hopkins' record the glen Johnson he beat was not at his best until much later Oscar De La Hoya was much smaller than Hopkins and so on and so on. You can do this but no matter what this won't prove anything because was a great fighter just like Calzaghe. Eubank nearly beat a Cruiser weight champion straight after his fight with Calzaghe and this arsehole who wrote this article said Byron Mitchell lost immediately after the Calzaghe fight.....No he was retired for over for years after the Calzaghe fight and had a come back that did not work out and months before he fought Calzaghe he lost a split decision to Sven Ottke in Germany so it is not a bad win at all. This guy also says that Robin Reid never won a title again but it does not mention that he was tottaly robbed in an IBF and WBA unification fight.

 

Dude your acting like im some bourgious conseted ****, whats with that? I was saying there are people on here that are just looking to hate and the way PAC played it was like this is it FACT. Which it was but there are other facts to factor in and these guys dont want to hear them not after that anyway. These are the facts so keep your shirt on you little wank.

 

I agree with you. PACFAN has a very one dimensional way of critiquing fighters and what he said is far from being fact, it's his very slanted opinion.

What annoyed me is you acting as though people couldn't comprehend what he was saying/doing with his posts because he goes to University...nonsense.

Pretty sad that you've resorted to petty name calling kid.

 

95% of hate threads are nothing but a bunch of facts, twisted and turned in a way that makes the hated fighter look bad. Its called manipulating facts. Congratulations on your thread.

If you're gonna mention records, mention records all the time, not just in the cases where it fits your agenda. Same for all your other stats.

 

Yep, every neutral fact is colored and qualified, subjectively. You could do that with absolutely any fighter's resume: Pavlik, RJJ, Mayweather, Tyson, etc., etc. What is the freaking point. Fighters are a product of the era they fight in, the business of boxing, and the competition available; and any fighter's record can be taken apart, dissected and presented in a negative light, if someone wants to badly enough.

 

Very good post :good

 

Yeah mate look i just dont like it when your accusing me of being patronising, i would never assume that and would be a **** if i did. I agree with a lot of what you have to say particularilly on Joe. But you bit my head off when i was having a bit of friendly banter with PACFAN. Making a value judgement in the process and accusing me of some **** im not guilty of so in short; dont ****ing start and i wont ****ing bite.

 

CHRIS EUBANK, 1997
- An excellent fighter who peaked in 1990-1 as a middleweight with sensational wins over Michael Watson and Nigel Benn. Lost twice to Steve Collins in 1995. Over the 2 years between the second Collins loss and the Calzaghe fight, Eubank fought only twice - once in Egypt against Luis Dionisio Barrera (35-8-4, had lost his last FOUR on the bounce), and once in the United Arab Emirates against Camilo Alarcon (13-2, lost his previous fight). The guy was in semi-retirement when he was offered a title fight because of his name. He was rustier than the Titanic.

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BRANKO SOBOT, 1998
- Who? Sobot was in his 16th pro fight when he fought Joe, record 14-1. Retired with a career record of 19-11.

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JUAN CARLOS GIMENEZ FERREYRA, 1998
- Was 38 years old when he fought Joe, already had 8 losses on the record including defeats by the great ERNESTO MAGDALENO, as well as Eubank, Benn and Mauro Galvano. Never held any version of a world title, lost in 4 attempts.

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ROBIN REID, 1999
- Won the WBC title by beating Vincenzo Nardiello in 1996, lost it in 1997 to 42-years-young Sugarboy Malinga (41-10 at the time). He never won a world title again, despite not retiring until 2007. Joe beat him on a split decision.

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RICK THORNBERRY, 1999
- Who? I am unsure myself, so although I remember the fight (vaguely), I checked the guy out. What did he do to merit a crack at the title? Well, here are Thornberry's last 6 opponents before he fought Joe:
NEIL MUNN, record 6-3, had lost last 3 in a row
BRIAN MURPHY, record 0-2, obviously he had lost his last 2 in a row
JOSEPH POLU, record 5-17, had lost his last 6 in a row at least
LIONEL OKULU, record 1-0, undefeated!
TOMMY WEST, record 18-23-5, had lost his last 6 in a row at least
DAVEY MOORE, record 5-26-1, had lost his last 4 in a row.
Nothing else to say about this guy.

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DAVID STARIE, 2000
- British and Commonwealth champion who has a win over Clinton Woods on the resume, but losses to Dean Francis and Andre Thysse. Never won any version of a world title.

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OMAR SHEIKA, 2000
- Had a win over Glen Johnson on the resume (it was Johnson's 4th defeat in a row), but had a loss to Tony Booth (28-44-7) as well. Sheika lost 4 in a row to Thomas Tate, Eric Lucas, and twice to Scott Pemberton shortly after facing Calzaghe. He never won any version of a world title.

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RICHIE WOODHALL, 2000
- Won the WBC title in 1998 by outpointing 43-year-old Sugarboy Malinga (42-10), lost it a year later to Markus Beyer (16-0). Had also lost to Keith Holmes by the time he fought Joe. Calzaghe was his last fight as a pro.

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MARIO VEIT, 2001
- Who? I am unsure myself, so although I remember the fight (vaguely), I checked the guy out. What did he do to merit a crack at the title? Well, here are his last 5 fights before challenging Joe:
ROB BLEAKLEY, record 75-22-1, had won 1 of his last 6 fights
RICO CASON, record 13-6, had lost 3 of his last 5
GLENN ODEM, record 14-16, had lost his last 4
EROL McDONALD, record 29-10-1, had lost his last 4 in a row
CARL COCKERHAM, record 10-5-2, lost his previous fight

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