Calzaghe - only fighter to beat both Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr.

There you go again, bashing on Dawson for taking on challenges that Calslappy refused and bringing up their ages :roll:

I wouldn't mind this so much because I can actually see your point but you defend Calslappys shameful fights with Hopkins and Jones like your life depended upon it. Please try to be consistent from now on.

 

The Jones fight can be called a sham. Hop was top 5 P4P, **** all shameful in that.

 

I didn't even mention his name...I happen to like Dawson..I like him better than Tarver, and Johnson...I just pointed out a fact, as been also done elsewhere.
I think Hopkins would beat him, BUT I'd pull for Chad,,,he hasn;t degraded anyone that I know of. I hope you didn't eat too much turkey, and i hope I don't have to be eating any crow too soon :hi:

 

It is a cool achievement only in that the biased jingoistic American press overestimates homegrown fighters. Joe Calzaghe owned the supermiddleweight division for a decade and then to satisfy the American press travelled to America and spanked two overated Amerobums in Jones and Hopkins. Europe and especially eastern Europe is where the true competition is, especially for big men over 165lbs. Joe defeated the magnificent Euro-fighter in Kessler and solidified his greatness. Amerobums suck at fighting like they do at tennis. The future of boxing, with men of normal stature, will be ruled by the European male. Deal with it haters!!!!

 

Tarver and Johnson were relevant to their divisions. Only Hopkins can kind of make that claim.

 

Overatted Amero bums in Jones and Hopkins

Look I like Joe he is the 2nd best super middle weight of all time imo guess who rates above him ? And you can keep your gay ass tennis come play a man's sport like bad mitten :yep Anyways Joe is a hof and so is Hopkins and Jones but it took a very long time for Joe to get in to the senior class when he kep getting left back playing with the Tucker Podwills of the world ..The man has boxed for over 20 yrs his most signifigant fights came in the last year of his career but you want to call Jones and Hopkins overratted ? Come on now brotha no hate here , but u need a reality check !!!

 

Hopkins, It would not surprise me if he's still fighting at 50

 

Jones never owned the supermiddleweight division like Joe Cal did and has no claim on that division. Joe walked the walk and whacked out contender after contender for YEARS "brotha." Joe wiped the floor with the best supermiddles from Britain, America and Europe proper over a ten year reign of terror. He then went to America and schooled Hopkins and Jones at lightheavy but not before slaughtering Lacy and Manfredo. Joe Calzaghe is an all time great fighter and deserves his accolades and no phoney P4P list compiled by jingoistic Americans can ever change that.

 

Taylor x2
Eastman
Joppy
Trinidad(WBA Champion)
DLH(WBO Champion)
Johnson
Echols
Holmes(WBC Champion)

Yeah, those are all bums, not to forget that he actually unified the WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO all by beating champions. Compare that to what Calzaghe has done defending his WBO title and ONLY that till Lacy and Kessler had to fly with their titles over there to him. You think he would have fought them if they didn't make the move?, the answer is a fat NO with obvious proof considering he never even thought about unifying when he was defending his title against REAL unheard of bums. Not to forget that some of his title defenses were actually against guys coming off losses. In terms of opposition both Hopkins and Jones wipe the floor with Calzaghe.

 

Your thoughts on "Amerobum" fighters seem not only biased but poorly researched, and as for Jones Jr not ruling the super middleweight division... Well that's a bit of a moot comparison, isn't it? Jones Jr was too busy Moving up through divisions, as many middle division fighters do... What he did at super-middle in the 90's though was fight the universally accepted champ of the division in James Toney... He fought him at the peak of his powers and beat him in a way that can only be referred to as supernatural. No single boxing display that Joe Calzaghe has ever put on can be mentioned in the same breath as this... And at the end of the day Calzaghe didn't even unify, did he? At least when Jones/Hopkins nested in their respective divisions they took the fights and unified the belts...

PS The English also suck at tennis... Tim Henman? Please...

 

I need some balls to when I hold a flower or put my forehead on an opponents chest with my hands down. Don't refute with denial that famed river.:hi:

 

Since when doesn't anyone suggest anyones better fighters EvEr were not low graded bums.:-((

 

Jones was awesome that night no doubt and yeah Tim Henman sucks at tennis but to me longevity has its place and Joe owned that supermiddleweight for years and cleaned it out with his victories over prime Lacy and still prime Kessler. For me, he is the standard bearer at Supermiddleweight that the young lions coming up should try to emulate.

 

In 2002, Joe just wasn't the big named opponent Hopkins wanted despite Bernard agreeing to the fight initially. The prospect of ditching the aforementioned Calzaghe fight to instead train for a few months to cash in against the great Morrade Hakkar was simply too tempting to pass up.

 

Calzhage tried hard to get the big names earlier (Now I would guess that's only disputed by people in places who do it because they can.) Another thing Calzhage clearly changes his hardness of punches depending on how his hands are.:yep