Calzaghe or Hamed - who has the better legacy?

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  1. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even with all his wasted talent and major under-achievements I still regard Hamed as the boxer who made a far more lasting impression on the sport than Calzhagi. If they were both in their prime right now I know which fighter all the kids would prefer to see.

    Naz was a master showmen, he got the kids out of their seats at home and got them interested in the sport and going into the gym.

    Calzhagi was a top boxer but I never remembered anyone around me ever got excited about his fight untill i visited Wales.
     
  2. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with you, put he looses a lot of legacy points with me because i don't like quitters.

     
  3. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Great post. You've really cut through the bull**** there and identified exactly what "legacy" is about. Getting people to buy tickets and become interested in the sport is a major part of that.
     
  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Thats fair enough. I think "why Naz quit boxing" is a whole other thread though. I'm not sure how much boxing had do with it. Naz was still a young man in good health, he had just started a family, earned £30 million, won all the titles, and the fans had turned their back on him to some degree, I kind of understand why he quit when he did.
     
  5. Mr. Blobby

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    I personally think he just grew tired of playing the villain. His kids were at an age where they were starting to understand things around them and were probably asking questions like "why do some many people hate you daddy."

    Too much money aswell.
     
  6. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I would love to sit down with Naz and ask "why did you quit when you did?", at the end of the day, he had a great punch on him, and sure he could have gone on and fought MAB, EM, JMM, PAC and he would have lost a few more times, but he would have won a few as well. I don't know, suppose that is why Hamed is unique, he did things a bit differently to everyone else.
     
  7. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I understand why he quit that's his decision, but Naz i still think Naz quit at 27ish because he lost 1 fight, he would not have quit if he had won the MAB fight. Naz best performances were probably still to come, but he just gave up. Athletes and people who have an enduring legacy never give up and make the most of their situation and ability, Naz did exactly the opposite.

     
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    There are a few things in this article that partially explain why he quit, when he did...


    http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/1658/naseem-hamed-once-star-british-boxing/
     
  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    199 for Calzaghe, 76 for Hamed.
     
  10. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I read that, so Naz lost a fight, suffered a few jeers from the crowed and had his Sky contract cut, s he quit. Fair enough he made £40 million, converted to Islam, he still quit.

    By the way that article doesn't say much about why he quit, the guy can't structure a sentence, and his points are confused, he starts one sentence talking about Naz family, talks about his trunks, sugar Ray Robinson, Naz behavior and ends the sentence with a question mark.

     
  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    IMO Hamed had the potential to be a greater fighter than Calzaghe but he bottled it.
     
  14. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe. Hameds legacy will forever be tainted by the fact that he lost the first time he faced world class opposition then ran away like a ******.
     
  15. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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