Calzaghe or Hamed - who has the better legacy?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Cepillo, Dec 26, 2008.


  1. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    So if Hamed was facing the likes of sanchez, why did he reject JMM? Was it a buisness thing rather than backing off to a good fighter?
     
  2. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post and interesting read. But Hamed certainly did not actively seek out the best fighters. The best fighters were were the Mexican bad asses Barrera Morales and Marquez - all of whom Naz and his team avoided as long as they possibly could. As soon as he stepped in with one of them, he was absolutely humiliated. Calzaghe struggled when he took on this elite level of opponent - Kessler and Hopkins - but he still came through with the wins.

    And its a little unfair to compare them in terms of excitement - no fighter was as exciting as Naz, but Calzaghe was still an extremely exciting fighter himself.
     
  3. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hamed was just a very good fighter in my opinion. too many flaws to be great. yeah he beat some good fighters along the way like kelley and medina etc. but look what barrera, morales and marquez did to those 3.:yep slayed em much easier than naz did. :bbb

    he fell badly short in the barrera fight when he was admittedly past his best. but ultimately he did fall short.

    calzaghe has remained unbeaten and beat the best opponents in and around his divisions. calzaghe takes this by some way. :deal
     
  4. DINAMITA

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    If you can't see the difference between Steve Robinson and Vuyani Bungu, I can't help you.

    Barrera, Morales and Marquez would all have beaten Hamed in that time-period. He was good, but not in their league.
     
  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I'm not sure if the Prince's people did reject JMM, or if so, when that happened.

    Hamed's best year was arguabley 1997, when he was a double world champion. At that time JMM was challenging for the NABO title and defending it (7 times) so it wasn't like he was a big name. Marquez didn't challenge for a world title until 1999, and he lost, so we were already getting well towards the end of Naz's career by this time. I'm not saying it wouldn't have been a good and tough fight, or that he wasn't a credible opponent, but I also don't see any massive reasons why this should have happened either. JMM only became a world champion, over a year after Hamed had retired.
     
  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Obliterated Jeff Lacy style? Where do you idiots come from? These kind of posts are the reason why i dont post on this lame GF.:roll:
     
  7. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Not sure I can see the likeness either.

    One was beaten by the better fighter, the man himself would rank it within his top five wins.

    The other was a hypejob, brutally destroyed.

    I don't feel I need to really tell you which one was which.....

    I am considering putting English Titan on the ignore list, because he has yet to make a single accurate post - and has been laughed off the Brit forum at least four times.
     
  8. DINAMITA

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    The most pitifully ignorant **** on this forum. Ban.

    1 - Naz's loss to Barrera was nothing like as emphatic as Lacy's to Calzaghe, so English_Titwank obviously hasn't seen the fight yet is commenting on it.

    2 - "Joe at the same size would beat up on Naz" Ridiculous. English_Titwank doesn't know anything about boxing yet it commenting on it.

    3 - "Being black and a Muslim", speaking about Naseem Hamed. This guy is dangerously ******ed. Dangerously.

    4 - Were Muhammad Ali not Muslim, he wouldn't be "touted around" like he is today. I'm speechless. I don't even know where to start with this racist and ignorant dog****. I'll leave it at this: Muhammad Ali has arguably the best resume of any fighter from 1960 till now. I think that might just be the main reason he is still "touted around".

    5 - Roy Jones ducked Joe Calzaghe :lol:. GLEN JOHNSON?! Calzaghe freely admits he pulled out of fighting Johnson more than once due to personal circumstances. Laughable.


    This one thread has enough evidence in it to condemn the Titan as the most poisonous vile dog on this site. "Testoment" to his horrific idiocy. I repeat: Ban.
     
  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    You should read the one about "Joe Calzaghe being perhaps the most technically gifted fighter ever" :lol:
     
  10. Ilesey

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    Calzaghe by a mile.
     
  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    How is it "by a mile"?
     
  12. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When i think of Hamed the things that come to mind are the following:

    1.Great ring entrances
    2. Good power,decent speed,good stamina,unorthodox
    3. When he met his first major challenge( Barrera) he lost and had one or 2 more fights against mediocore opposition and left the game


    As for Calzaghe :

    1.Great speed,heart,skills,stamina
    2.Unified titles,moved up in weight and succeeded
    3.Undefeated and when in trouble never quit and found a way to win...What more could you ask of a fighter
     
  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I don't mean to be negative about Calzaghe all the time, but the first word that comes to mind when I think about him is: 'sham'. All those years, nearly a decade, defending his one WBO title, against mostly low class opposition, in his backyard. That isn't the mark of a great champion in my book. Yes, Calzaghe unified the super-middleweight division, it took him a decade to do it, whereas Hamed unified the Feathweight division in 3 years.
     
  14. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I prefer to watch Hamed, but the answer to this question has to be Calzaghe.
     
  15. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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