Calzaghe or JT - Who was least impressive against BHOP?

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  1. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    I haven't seen either of the Hopkins-Taylor fights, but I've read many times on here that Hopkin's was unlucky not to get the decision in both fights.

    I've watched the Calzaghe - Hopkin's fight a number of times, and while Calzaghe's performance was far from vintage I felt he did enough to just nick it. Obviously many on here disagree and he gets a lot of abuse.

    If you listen to some these 3 L's on BHOP's record should be W's.

    So who was least impressive against BHOP?
     
  2. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Taylor. Because he fought a Hopkins who clearly must of been struggling to make middle at he soon stepped up two divisions, and despite Calzaghe's unimpressive performance, I felt that despite it being a close fight he won clearly enough, while I felt Taylor lost I think it was the second B-Hop fight.
     
  3. unsentdemon

    unsentdemon Active Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe looked least impressive. Taylor did a lot better, Hopkins also did a lot more cheating against Taylor, he caught him with a headbutt that split Taylor's head open and left him disoriented.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Calazage, Taylor did better plus BHOPs was older when he fought Joe
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe looked about 100 times better than Taylor did. Taylor won the early rounds by a hair using his athleticism and then gassed and got his ass beat handily in the championship rounds. Hopkins dominated Taylor in the championship rounds. They weren't even close.

    In the end they both looked pretty bad though. Hopkins will do that to you.

    imo Taylor has the perfect style to defeat Hopkins, Calzaghe is just much better
     
  6. Daft P

    Daft P Active Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe did a lot better, Calzaghe was the first man to beat B-Hop clearly since Roy Jones. Although I had Taylor winning the first fight, it was solely due to B-Hop's passivity and could have been a draw as well. Hopkins won the second IMO.
     
  7. zarman

    zarman Guest

    as i had hopkins winning the taylor fight, i would have to go with taylor. with calzaghe he moved up in wieght, fought abroad for the first time and won a close but clear dicision.
     
  8. sean

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    swings and roundabouts and it depends entirely on what you like.

    taylor was gifted 12 of the 24 rounds by hopkins who chose to play it safe and taylor also playing it safe nicked a lot of those rounds just dint of letting his hands go a little more.

    taylors othodoxy also makes it better to the eye to look at.

    in calzaghe`s defense once he settled down in the fight around round 3 or 4 he is the only person hopkins has ever faced who showed him no respect at all and was prepared to walk through him in order to let his hands go ,giving hopkins no breathing space to set his traps.
     
  9. TFFP

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    Taylor lost, Calzaghe didn't. Figure it out.
     
  10. D-MAC

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    Jermain Taylor was least impressive.

    Calzaghe's win was close but clear, whereas I thought Hopkins won the two fights with Taylor.
     
  11. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    i had taylor winning both fights very close.

    hopkins just did not do enough in so many rounds to win the fight.

    some rounds in the first fight at the end he won big , but a round is a round and hopkins simply chose not to fight but to pose in so many of them .
     
  12. Bslice

    Bslice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Taylor looked better, he didnt get knocked on his ass at all and did not do the doggie paddle. However, JC did **** Hopkins which was highly entertaining so I guess its close but I think nod goes to Taylor
     
  13. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Interesting. Though I take it that many on here, rightly or wrongly would attribute that to Hopkin's age.
     
  14. sean

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    hopkins age was a factor in how his style has developed, but it still takes a fighter with mental strength and willingness to do whatever it takes to get a win.

    its an x factor that is calzaghe is not given credit for by his detractors , but it is a hugley important make up in a fighter.

    have a bad night/prepared to look bad as long as you get a win.

    thats what happened in the calzaghe v hopkins fight.

    personally i prefered taylors work v hopkins to calzaghe`s but over a career , calzaghe would have looked a million dollars v ouma and calzaghe would have never ever have let spinks dictate the fight v him as taylor did , simply because taylor is the kind of fighter that refuses to leave himself a little off balance and unpolished, he would rather lose ( and i thought he did v spinks) than look bad but get the job done.
     
  15. ocelot

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    In Hopkins' entire career he has never been out-adapted (out fought by RJJ, yes, but never out-adapted). Nobody's ever turned the tables on him. Until Calzaghe. He was completely dumb-struck by it. "he fought my fight for half the fight". Even that was an optomistic assessment. Hopkins got out-thought as much as he got out-fought, and no one's ever done that to him before. That was the story of the fight.