Calzaghe - Ottke .... in Germany

oooh easy to trash the germans , call it like it is in wales and its bitching

 

lol America is just as bad my friend. What did you say about people in glass houses?

 

keep teloing yourself that atsch

 

both are cut from the same cloth, thats fairly obvious.


Avoided top fighters in their time making useless mandatories over and over and over


THere a reason guys like Haye and now froch (gonna try at least) get respect evenwith a loss or 2 , they fight the best out there asap

 

I remember that onfire guy from one of the sites was saying that joe was making the first defense of the title in the fight after lacy (against another lower level guy believe it or not cannot even remember the name ashira or bika i54) lol Joes jaw dropped

thats right joe 20 defenses and people dont even know ya

 

yes it is however America is where all the worlds tops fighters meet , the best P4Pers fight there filipino againt mexicans etc even the best brits fight there to snip out the comp, Joe never went until he got guys intheir 40s

 

Ottke would win, by disqualification probably.

 

The Filipinos and the Mexicans fight there because they can earn 10x the cash they can at home. Not so for a UK champ like Calzaghe. So the only other reason to fight there is if you get offered a mega fight or title shot that you can't get at home (Hatton-Mayweather, Calzaghe-Hopkins, Jennings, Lockett etc...) For the vast majority of Calzaghe's career there was nobody at his weight that fitted that bill. The only fighter who would have been a big enough fight to justify it was Jones and he was a 175lber.

 

what glass house Im not form America I saw Joe fight live

 

[quote="TKO";3582553]The Filipinos and the Mexicans fight there because they can earn 10x the cash they can at home. Not so for a UK champ like Calzaghe. So the only other reason to fight there is if you get offered a mega fight or title shot that you can't get at home (Hatton-Mayweather, Calzaghe-Hopkins, Jennings, Lockett etc...) For the vast majority of Calzaghe's career there was nobody at his weight that fitted that bill. The only fighter who would have been a big enough fight to justify it was Jones and he was a 175lber.[/quote]


that my good man is total horse**** there were many fights regarless of location that would launch him, around his class of weight above and below, it just required him to travel a bit

he beat Eubank and never capitalised

 

even after lacy he went on another fkn bum spree

 

You are talking horse****. I am talking about the United States. Where there have been no 168lbers of real note since Roy Jones. And I was talking about fights at super middleweight. Therefore, fights a bit above or below are very interesting but not really relevant to the discussion at hand.

 

The same bum sprree that included the #1 contender and WBA/WBC champ, p4p #4 light heavy champ and another top 10 168 contender? Jesus, I wish most of the UK world champs would go on one.

 

[quote="TKO";3582595]You are talking horse****. I am talking about the United States. Where there have been no 168lbers of real note since Roy Jones. And I was talking about fights at super middleweight. Therefore, fights a bit above or below are very interesting but not really relevant to the discussion at hand.[/quote]



they are so relevant joe hidout in a weak division iwth a wek title for ten years and always saif he can go up easy

 

[quote="TKO";3582602]The same bum sprree that included the #1 contender and WBA/WBC champ, p4p #4 light heavy champ and another top 10 168 contender? Jesus, I wish most of the UK world champs would go on one.[/quote]

I give Joe credit for nard although I thought nard won like one of the judges adn the kessler win looks good, lets see hoiw kessler gets on first, kessler was another supermiddle "champ" 40 fights undfeated world title , fought very little names