Calzaghe ownz Toney anyday of the week

Dude, if Calzaghe beat Hopkins. With LL THE HEADBUTTING AND GRABBING THAT bhOP DID THAT NIGHT. hE WOULD CERTAINLY WHOOP tONEY. tONEY HAS NEVER FACED ANYONE AS AKWARD AS caLZAGHE, AND THAT WILL CARRY THE DAY.

 

As for "Calzaghe and his windmill technique" - go and review Calzaghe in the earlier days before his hand injury, realise that Eubank has as much of a chin as Toney and yet was put down by a right hand very early in their fight.

For all the conjecture about Eubank being a spent force, his later bouts where he was extremely unlucky not to gain a title prove he wasn't. The conjecture about Eubank being weight drained is also wrong, as he was preparing for a fight at the time and apparently weighed 172lb two weeks out from the Calzaghe fight.

Calzaghe cannot have his chin questioned - being knocked down doesn't mean you have a bad chin, the shots he took against Kessler, uppercuts (the hardest to resist) indicate the guy had a thick beard. His movement style and the way he squares up when he throws means he can be caught off balance, but only by super quick, super slick fighters like Bernard.

 

Hopkins was 43 and still almost beat Calzaghe. Calzaghe has never fought anyone as good as a prime Toney. Not old Hopkins. Not shot Jones. Not robotic Kessler and def not bum Lacy.

Toney has more skill then Joe. Has more power. Had a better chin and a better defence. Calzaghe can slap all he wants but Toney will caught him with big right hands all night and Calzaghe WILL go down.

 

Toney would stop him inside 3. Toney will walk through the windmill slaps and if rights from jones and hopkins drop him toney will drop him everytime he lands. Too much power, too experienced. Cal would not land a shot.

Toney by murder.

 

I don't know who would win, but it's a pretty stupid argument to make that he cannot be effective slipping punches from a fighter when his opponent throws more than 1,000 punches in a fight when the resurrection of Toney's career in this decade came about as a result of doing exactly what you claim he cannot do - the Jirov fight.

 

I think that the problem with both Bernard and Roy is that they are both way too worried with not being hit. Against Joe they were both more worried about not being hit themselves then with landing their own shots. You just can't get away with that kind of style with joe.

Toney wouldn't mind taking a little leather. he is a very defensive fighter but if the fight is on the line, he is not scared of being KO'd and will stand his ground to het his own shots in.

I don't think that either guy owns the other but this would be a very interesting fight. Much better than Calzge haters and Toney nuthuggers want to admit and it could go either way.

 

Toney's genius came in the fact that he fought guys who were old and probably past their used by date, making himself seem a much better talent than he ever was.


This might be the single funniest thing I have ever read. Sorry, but didn't Joe make himself a superstar by fighting two 40 plus year-old fighters?

 

Eubank was past it. Fact.

 

This fight would've been epic and nowhere near as clear cut as either fighters fans would like to make out.

The image I always get is of Toney-Jirov, and Jirov was pretty much a worse version of Calzaghe. Toney struggled with Jirov and this makes me think he would struggle with Calzaghe. Of course Toney was worse at CW than he was at SMW, but none the less the stylistic problem still exists.

Bernard showed that you can negate Calzaghe's punch output with smart counter-punching, and Toney could pot shot nicely whilst slipping punches. However, Calzaghe would pressure Toney for the full 12, and I'm not sure he could keep this up.

I see a close decision for Calzaghe, similar to the Hopkins fight with Toney starting the stronger but not being able to keep up with the pace down the stretch.

 

Calzaghe cannot have his chin questioned - being knocked down doesn't mean you have a bad chin, the shots he took against Kessler, uppercuts (the hardest to resist) indicate the guy had a thick beard. His movement style and the way he squares up when he throws means he can be caught off balance, but only by super quick, super slick fighters like Bernard.[/quote]



Calzaghe can and should have his chin questioned. But, the more pressing question is that he was knocked down by guys who were well past it but knew a lot of veteran tricks. Say what you want about Toney, but the guy had an old boxing soul and he knew these tricks, that apparently Joe never learned, in his 20's. A prime Toney would be way too tough for Joe, in my opinion. Not that he wouldn't have given a spirited effort. He was a great fighter...just not as great as Toney or Jones (in their primes).

 

P.s Calzaghe does slap but he has heavy hands....that's why no one walks him down and KO's him. It's clear to his all his opponents respect his power, and the one that didn't (Lacy) ended up looking like he'd beeen in a car wreck.

 

Calzaghe ownz Toney anyway of the week


I stopped reading right there ^^^^ atsch

 

Toney is not Jeff Lacy. Joe isnt just gonna run circles around Toney while he throws his slaps. And dont give me that RJJ did it cause Joe aint him not even ****in close.

Toney will make Calzaghe miss just as much as Hopkins did..... And Joe aint hard to hit I hate to break this to you.

Now go make me dinner ***** before i take my belt off.

 

At 168? Calzaghe's insane speed and workrate would win the fight.