Calzaghe ownz Toney anyday of the week

Just like Hopkins walked straight through Calzaghe's punches?

The reason you ****ers can't be taken seriously is because you want to judge Toney at the absolute pinnacle of his abilities and power vs a declining Joe Calzaghe when he fought Hopkins.

Let me tell you a little secret, Joe was in the ****ing twilight of his career in that fight - Hopkins will fight more after their fight than Joe has.

 

Even though calzaghes prime was at sm, that was also Toneys best weight,and to compare calzaghes hand speed to a prime jones is :nuts not even close not to mention mobility. Ok Toney in primo condition beats Calzage by late rounds stoppage or close decision, I agree toney had faster hands than calzaghe at sm, but Joewas more active and that would make it a close fight but im going with Toney. Ok that was at sm at Lh i think it would be different the same thing just Calzaghe would take it . Reason?? Cause Toney got into some kind of lazy ass mental phase and hed get outhustled by calzaghe toney seemed like only about 85% at lt hvy,And calzaghe would take advantage of that by close but convincing decision

 

Disagree hes overrated cuz hes white. If he was Black hed be picked apart for not fighting the elite fighters when they were in there prime. Thats a fact!!! ..Im a mexican american so think what you want, but I just call it how I see it. When it comes to a fighters accomplishments and abilities I show no favorites

 

Toney would ease past Kessler, i don't see anything special about this guy, hopefully the super 6 proves me wrong. Toney wouldn't make 168 at 37.

Well i agree his a lazy ****, but calzaghe won his "elite" fights when the fighters were on the decline or shot, not including Lacy (who was hyped as the next big thing) and Kessler, who has done **** all since losing to Calzaghe, but was apparently the heir to the throne at 168.

 

Toney was lazy and he would not lose to Kessler. Who is Kessler again? If your talking about prime for prime, I go with Toney. Joe was a good champion, but not great. RJJ would have starched his ass at 168 back in the day.

Someone actually told you to wash dishes, nooo. Not with this thread title.

 

I think Toney could KO Calzaghe today at cruserweight! Back in the day I think he boxes Joe's ears off before a brutal KO!! Calzaghe is too easy to hit flush. The Jones that beat Toney would have finished Calzaghe in the 1st round.

 

Calzaghe would beat him in my opinion, because he has quality footwork, or maybe mobility is the word, and he's a good ring general. Footwork is the kryptonite for Toney, who people won't label one dimensional but he was. He was purely a counterpuncher, but within that limitation he was one of the best ever, amazing, with a brilliant defence.

I do entertain the idea that Toney could win by knockout though, possible in my perception. But i'll take Calzaghe on points.

 

Toney was most definitely not one dimensional. He box, he countered, and fought in the inside when needed. He beat Prince Williams or something at 175 with inside work which Prince was beating others at. Toney adapted quickly. He was just a lazy **** and that is the strongest reason for his losts. When he beat Nunn, he was losing bad. He played possum for almost the entire fight until bang. I still thought Nunn could have pulled it off due to Toney hitting him in the back of the head and the ref should have given Nunn time to recup and warned Toney. Nunn through Toney into the spotlight.

 

When Toney fans start resorting to delusion it may be better just to pat them on the head and say "yeah whatever" to them.

 

We're talking about joe calzaghe moron, not joe schmo. Toney inside 3,
do you even watch boxing? I can tell that you don't when your BS reasoning for toney stopping joe was the he had too much power and experience. Canned excuse if i ever heard one.

 

#1....you ****ed up on your own thread title....if you wanted to say it correctly it would have been "Toney owns Calzaghe any DAY of the week" and #2 a Prime JT has no trouble with Joe on the inside. It's the outside that would cause him issues but even then a Prime JT wipes the floor with Joe C. Sorry.....if Joe struggle that much against a old Bhop then he has little chance againt a prime James Toney. Tone wouldn't have ANY concern or regard for Joe's Punching power or lack there of so he'd have no issues dealing with his offense beside maybe the double or tripple Jab of Joe along with his movement on the outside.

 

Sorry - I don't see the comparison. Jirov had great stamina and could bang. To look at that fight and somehow deduce that Calzaghe would beat Toney is opposite to what I think.
Tell me - what could Calzaghe bring to Toney that Jirov couldn't? Doesn't Jirov's power more than offset Calzaghe workrate?

 

Joe could be green or purple and he'd still not get the kind of cred that JT gets based purely on what he does in the ring and who he faught in his PRIME! It's not about color or geographical location, it's about what you do and how you do it inside that ring. Stats and resumes do not lie. Joe wasted much of his career avoiding the top guys in his era b/c he was worried about his undefeated record....unfortunately his record is very padded and his talent, skill and ability are great where he's resume is just good.

 

The thread started would be closer to being write than you. Joe doesn't have the kind of natural boxing or technical boxing skill of a james toney....no matter what era we discuss. He's just not that guy.

JOe has MORE TALENT, which would give Joe a chance b/c he's very fast and very busy, so outworking Toney wouldn't be that far off. But you don't outbox James....especially if you are Joe Cal.

 

I wouldn't go this far.....but a prime James would win. Joe would have his spots where his work rate would do him good but Toney adapts and would win.