Calzaghe ownz Toney anyday of the week

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sarah, Oct 1, 2009.


  1. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let’s get back to that subject when Calzaghe defeats his first top-5 ring ranked heavyweight.
     
  2. Sarah

    Sarah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe could pile the pundage on to 193lbs like Jones did for Ruiz and still beat/outwork the Holyfield Toney beat. ****, the man walks around @ 180 ish if he fought Holy at the age and decline Toney fought Holy he woulda won as well.

    But anyway Toney is a slipper Calzaghe is a workhouse. Different styles for the slower HW division but still everything I said holds true.

    P.S. I fixed the title since so many people found that the only valid part they could nit pick.
     
  3. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    Ok...now the Prime Toney...who'd win?
     
  4. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe could have beaten a prime Toney on points. Maybe. But there is no way that he would have taken the fight.
     
  5. horst

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    This is a thoroughly dreadful analysis. Only a true semen-depository would reduce a fight between two such high level fighters to "he would get 'outworked'".

    Michael Nunn outworked Toney, Vassily Jirov outworked Toney. A past-prime Hopkins and the fossilized remains of Roy Jones floored Calzaghe - think what a prime Toney could do with hard, accurate inside or overhand right counters. Calzaghe's defence would let him down here. He would be outskilled. Toney by points, widely because of a couple of knockdowns.

    Now **** off and get the hoovering done before anyone notices you said "JOE HAS BETTER UPPER BODY MOVEMENT" or "JOE IS MORE TECHNICAL"!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :good
     
  6. horst

    horst Guest

    PS: I have just noticed you keep bringing up the Holyfield fight. Please do not reply to my posts because I have no interest in you. You clearly don't have the first clue about James Toney, his career, or boxing in general. The Holyfield fight was at heavyweight. Toney's peak was 91-94 at mw and smw, a decade before he faced Holyfield. You're a waste of a username.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I don't disagree that Calzaghe was capable of beating Toney (it's one of those matchups that's basically 50/50 because of the distinct advantages that both fighters hold over the other in certain categories), but to say he had better upper-body movement? That right there made me stop reading. Toney's success was all upper-body, and in that regard he was one of the best I've seen. He was just lacking in other areas, like footwork, that Calzaghe could take advantage of. Then again Calzaghe's southpaw stance and susceptibility to right hands could see him taken advantage of. Then again Calzaghe's in and out speed and workrate could see him overwhelm Toney's stationary style with punches in bunches. But then again Toney's counter-punching skills could see him nullify Calzaghe's swarming effectiveness. Very difficult fight to call, but I think it would be a great bout to watch.
     
  8. horst

    horst Guest

    A fair analysis. I also think it would be a great fight between two high level fighters. I just think Calzaghe's lack of defence and head movement would be his downfall against a peak version of Toney. However, I can easily see how someone could think Joe could outpoint JT. I just get steamed up when I read some braindead attention ***** spouting utter excrement like 'Joe has better upper-body movement' or 'Joe is more technical'. Joe has many great qualities, but upper body movement and technical skill are not two areas he excels in at all. It's beyond comprehension. :fire
     
  9. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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  10. PopeJackson

    PopeJackson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sarah's post is ****ing joke. Wish ESB would ban these ******s..
     
  11. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    Seconded.

    There are a lot of morons but S's threads are always asinine and completely wrong.
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Don't be surprised to see Calzaghe fly all the way to the US to make a fight with Toney as well.

    Calzaghe made a perfect plan accepting those fights when all became beyond expired and shot.
     
  13. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe would have beaten Toney in Toney's prime. Just too fast and cagey.
     
  14. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    As opposed to the 1 time in 83 fights Toney traveled to fight in another country?
     
  15. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    You no nothing about boxing