Calzaghe resume = Hopkins resume?

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  1. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe would easily beat Johnson, Tarver, Winky, Tito & DLH.

    Oh and Calzaghe already beat Hopkins.

    Enuff said.
     
  2. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    There resumes are not that far apart to be fair, obviously people will deny that but its true.
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    This is an insult to Hopkins, possibly the biggest insult ANY sane human being let alone real BOXING fan would make, you must be ******ed or just trolling on purpose, even Boxrec all alone should convince you otherwise without having to make "serious" use of your dial-up connection.

    Hopkins DIDN'T wait for other belt holders to make the flight to him nor literally beg to make these fights happen when he dominated middleweight. Hopkins fought each champion and unified from scratch, all the meaningful belts and also defended them, WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO. Hopkins also moved up to light heavyweight and won the lineal title there as well fighting guys he WASN'T supposed to beat and was a heavy underdog fighting them because of his age.

    It didn't make sense to Calzaghe to travel when everyone was young and prime because he, an admitted unknown, thought he deserved insane amounts of money but it made sense when they were all past it for two fights only then a "glorious" retirement no one gave a **** to celebrate or announce.

    Hopkins shits on Calzaghe top to bottom when it comes to resume and accomplishments. To be honest, Andre Ward, who is new can compete with Calzaghe in terms of resume. Make sure to look at the ******s who claim it's 50/50's location right below their avatars. If it's England or anywhere close to that then immediately scroll down. These guys would also argue that Pacquiao and Hatton's resumes are 50/50 or 51%/49% slightly in favor of Hatton.
     
  4. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    shame Hopkins refused to fight Calzaghe in 2001:smoke
     
  5. Scar

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    That's the only thing you guys can make a case of and you're making it seem like Calzaghe has been officially announced the greatest of all generations and Hopkins and a mass murderer and cheater. You can list that one fight for Hopkins, want me to list you the long list of possible opponents Calzaghe could have considered or moved up to fight if he really wanted to when they weren't as shot as he waited for them to be?
     
  6. anthbrown

    anthbrown Active Member Full Member

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    are you forgetting that JC beat hopkins ?

    therefiore yours should read


    Bhops best wins:
    Tito
    Oscar
    Joppy
    Holmes

    Noticable losses:
    Jones
    Taylor*2
    Calzaghe

    Calzaghe:
    Hopkins
    Lacy
    Eubank
    Kessler
    Reid
     
  7. anthbrown

    anthbrown Active Member Full Member

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    thats a rediculous statement to make, i dont know anyone who would think that... its just pathetic even saying it, not all english fans are stupid ya know... calzaghes f*kin welsh anyways
     
  8. agentsmith

    agentsmith Active Member Full Member

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    Taylor was green when he fought Hopkins and Hopkins should of fought Winky who was his WBC mandatory instead of Taylor. Taylor hadnt really beaten anyone of note at that point, Hopkins lost both of those fights because of his strategy rather than his age. He hasnt been in any wars so he was a "young" 40 year old. The fact thathe he is still fighting shows that he still "had a lot in the tank as well".
     
  9. agentsmith

    agentsmith Active Member Full Member

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    Even if you could make a case for Hopkins resume being better, its only better by a little bit
     
  10. agentsmith

    agentsmith Active Member Full Member

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    A fighter can only put on so many multiples of 7lbs because it starts to affect his performance. Oscar lost the Strum fight and was given a gift, he also lost the Hopkins fight. He should be 0-2 at mw, so beating him at mw isnt a great win.

    The Tito win was a good win but Tito went on to be 3-2 at mw, both of those losses were by clear shutouts. So its clear he wasnt fighting in his prime division
     
  11. agentsmith

    agentsmith Active Member Full Member

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    Winkys prime divison is jmw, he is competitive at mw and unproven at lhw. Hopkins should of got dqed in that fight anyway.

    Tarver and Tito were solid wins

    Johnson is a journeyman who lost to sossa and sheika and went life and death with a b level Woods

    Eastman journeyman never achieved anything of note.

    Holmes dont know much about him, what are his best wins?

    His fights with Taylor and Calzaghe werent close either, Hopkins did nothing in the first 8 rounds in Taylor I and he was allowed to hit, hold and headbutt against Calzaghe.

    And if you give him points for his wins, then you have to take away points for his losses: Calzaghe, Mitchell, Jones, Taylor*2

    He was also given a gift draw against Mercado I
     
  12. agentsmith

    agentsmith Active Member Full Member

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    Go ahead

    Hopkins has turned down fights with : Toney, Calzaghe, Jones and Dawson
     
  13. agentsmith

    agentsmith Active Member Full Member

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    Dude your having a laugh. The quality of their opposition is similar whether you like it or not. Hopkins resume is seen as better because he has beat a lot of big name smaller opponents. The Hopkins fight was arranged to take place in America and Hopkins priced himself out of it by demanding 6m. Jermain Taylor demanded 10M

    From Calzaghes Autobiography
     
  14. Bummy Davis

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    Good point.....acually B-Hops record while Middleweight champ was less than Calzage as a Super M....It was as an older more experienced and less drained fighter in the lightheavyweight division did B-Hop peak IMO and he had good wins over Tarver and Pavlick

    Overall there records are about equal or Calzage may have the edge
     
  15. Piye

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    Wins over

    Winky (A+ fighter at his best) B fighter when he fought Bernard
    Pavlik (B+ fighter looked to be A at the time)
    Tarver (A fighter)
    Johnson (B+ fighter)
    Trinidad (A+ fighter, Hopkins ruined him)
    Joppy (C fighter)
    Oscar Delahoya (A+ fighter, granted too small for Bernard.)

    and soon Roy Jones (If calzhage can claim it over a shot Roy so can Hopkins) crushes Calzhages resume

    Of

    Kessler (Overrated can't adapt) B- fighter
    Lacy (Trash) C - fighter
    Jones (Shot) Former A+ (C- when he fought Joe)
    And Hopkins (Good win) A- fighter