Calzaghe resume > Jones?

Also consider Jones' wins he usually was more dominate. Jones toyed with Toney and Ruiz.

Calzaghe schooled Lacey but his fight with Kessler was pretty close and his fight with Hopkins was pretty close as well.

 

Jones totally outclassed a prime Toney, beat a young Hopkins with one hand (or so he claims) - and won the Heavyweight title of the world. I don't see anything Joe did singly that matches anyone one of those achievements.

 

Roy Jones was shot.:good

 

How is this even debatable...Roy's resume is clearly better

 

Roy's win over Toney is better than anything on Joe's resume.

pow!

 

enough with the ******ed threads!

 

STFU, you know nothing of Boxing, you're not a fan of the sport, you're a fan of an individual.

Tell me, do you not consider Toney or Hopkins a step up in comp? How about winning the Heavyweight Title? How about cleaning out the entire Light Heavy division?

 

Heavyweight Title? Lennox Lewis was THE Heavyweight Champion.

Jones beat John Ruiz who was a paper belt holder. Get out of here with that Heavyweight Champion garbage.

And Roy did not clean out the Light Heavyweight Division.

:rofl atsch

 

Name one other fighter who has ever gone from Junior Middleweight to Heavyweight successfully while being a champ in four different weightclasses. Yes, with exception of DM, he cleaned out the division.

Do you really start rolling on the floor laughing and slapping yourself in the face when using those emoticons?

 

Jones' resume is better by miles.

 

i was'nt a rjj fan in his his prime. roytards were obnoxious fans from a couple of years ago who jumped on the pbf bandwagon after rjj got starched. but rjj takes this easy, no question. not even close. this guy was probably the greatest fighter of his generation.

 

Well in terms of resume, I think your list needs some adjustment. First of all, Ruiz is a great accomplishment. He was a real heavyweight, and even though he wasn't considered one of the top heavyweights, he was still world class. Toney was a great accomplishment, though you already acknowledged that he was in his prime. Hopkins was not 'lightly' past his prime. Hopkins's prime was literally TEN years ago. TEN YEARS past his prime. I wouldn't call that lightly. His physical prime was probably in the mid 90s, though I would say the last times I saw him fight like a fighter in his prime was the late 90s... Antwun Echols (second time), Robert Allen (second time), etc etc. Also, Roy's WIN over Tarver is very good, considering Tarver then managed to beat Jones twice, and was a top fighter at the time. Tarver didn't just take Jones 12 rounds because Jones was weak physically, it was also because of his style. Tarver is really the only fighter that was able to nearly outbox Jones (and did in their third fight). He could actually deal with Jones's chicken fighting style, feints, misdirection, etc etc.

And also... RESUME is not the only thing to look at when comparing fighters. ACCOMPLISHMENT is important, excluding Jones's bigger wins, you could say say Calzaghe's record is similar to Jones's (though I would disagree personally), but Jones was dominant in all of those random fights in between the big one. Scoring many impressive knockouts, almost all of those fights Roy completely destroyed his opponent. And in the bigger fights... Jones was dominant in beating Toney, clearly beat Hopkins (Calzaghe's win over Hopkins was a split decision, and some feel he won), and dominated John Ruiz even, at heavyweight.

 

jones win lose or draw has the better resume and will always have the better one

 

The people who say "what a ******ed thread" how about don't contribute and bump it up the page...

I think it's a valid thread, the guy has presented a case which people either agree or disagree with and there are some educated and informed arguments for and against...

Personally I think Jones for the most part has the better resume but at the same time I would argue his record is padded with some weaker opponents but he fought most of te people that were out there. One can certainly argue that Calzaghe's record too is padded with weaker fighters that were a class below but in the same way who else was out there? Sven Ottke?! The guy was a joke imo, some of the judging and refereeing in his fights was ridiculous and Joe would've beat him easily, if not ko'd him. He fought a young up and comer in Lacy who was supposed to blow him away, he fought a great fighter in Kessler, and he beat hopkins, who might be old but he is still one of the hardest fighters in the world to beat, his tactics are awkward and frustrating and 2/3 people who are paid to judge fights for a living gave Calzaghe the win, out of his backyard, that's the bottomline.

Anyway back to the point, Roy has a superior resume to Joe, I don't think there is much doubt about that, but I do think Calzaghe's resume is given more **** than it deserves...I really don't see why people hate him so much...It's a shame he didn't fight the big boys when he was a bit younger and in his prime as he may have won more impressively and his resume could easily have been improved but that's not a major issue imo...

As for legacy, Roy is superior here too, to be a four weight world champion and be the first man in over 100years to win the middleweight and heavyweight titles is incredible. But I think Calzaghe's legacy is underrated also...He is one of very few men to have held a world title for 10 years plus, and to have made 20+ defences, as well as becoming the ring champion at two weights and that is pretty impressive full stop and add to that the possibility of him retiring undefeated!

To conclude RJJ>JC but there is no shame on calzaghes part.

 

I salute you!:good