Calzaghe retired on top and has not lost a fight...so I ask you fans

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  1. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And I'm sure Warren would lie on record thus opening himself and the publisher of the story up for a lible suit :patsch
     
  2. DINAMITA

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    Your work on this thread has been commendable. It's pointless debating on the subject of Joe C with guys like Cobbler and Beatboxer, they'd stab their own grandma before they'd admit he was a cherrypicking hometown zero-protector for NINE YEARS '97-'06. It's a shame because they are good posters in other ways.

    Watch them and other Calzaghe maniacs spew forth excuse after excuse after excuse for why Joe could not possibly at any time have fought any of these guys:

    Ottke (no attempt made by both parties)

    Michalczewski (like Tarver, he could not have been expected to come down in weight to fight a WBO champion, but Dariusz was there to be fought. No attempt was ever made)

    Jones Jr ('97-'03 Jones was in the division above Joe. No attempt was ever made in 6 years to get that fight. The awesome drawing power of Clinton Woods managed to get him a crack though)

    Hopkins (Calzaghe fanatics say the world p4p#1 "ducked" a hometown WBO champion who had never fought any strong comp back in '02. Please. Hopkins had huge fights with Jones,Trinidad,De La Hoya,Taylor,Tarver before Joe started behaving like a proper boxer in '06. In the same time period, Calzaghe had fought... Reid,Woodhall,Mitchell etc. If anyone needed that fight and should've chased it, it was ol' Shoddy Resume and not B-Hop)

    Taylor (Neither Calzaghe nor Taylor pursued this when they could've initially, and Calzaghe has retired when that fight could've been made again)

    Pavlik (Calzaghe chose to slap around the bloodied corpse of Roy Jones when Warren wanted to make this fight)

    Dawson (Calzaghe retired when that fight could've been made despite Dawson calling him out)

    Froch (Calzaghe retired when that fight could've been made despite Froch calling him out)

    Tarver (Calzaghe never pursued it. Tarver can't have been expected to come down in weight to fight a WBO champion who never leaves Wales)

    G.Johnson (Calzaghe blatantly ducked him, no doubt)

    W.Wright (this one could/should have happened. Wright had nowhere to go after the Taylor draw and was p4p#5 at the time. Very winnable for Joe, missed opportunity to have a big name on the res who wasn't 40+)

    Echols (same scenario as Johnson, Calzaghe pulled out. Not a superfight that never happened, but Echols is as good as a Mitchell or a Reid and would've been one of his better wins)

    Let the desperate excuses begin.... :good
     
  3. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    What do you mean while they were champs. Joe was a champ himself. Roy should've fought DM in Germany. I can now say that because DM was the true champion at 175 when he beat Hilll, and was unfairly stripped. So what Cal asked for a fight with those guys whether here or over seas. Those guys didn't offer Cal a fight at all. Hop and Jones showed no interest in going overseas or fighting home against a guy they thought they were better than, or who was high risk and low reward.
     
  4. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His impressive wins are only 3. Kessler, Hopkins, and Lacy. Forget the people discrediting those wins, each win was very impressive in their own right. But after that, what has he done besides defend against lower level comp?
     
  5. NALLEGE

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    Nobody needs excuses for this garbage that you wrote lol... lol. You are lying when you name Ottke and say no attempt was ever made by either guy lol. The rest of the guys is circumstance. Glen Johnson is the only fight he should've made because the fight was actually signed. I can't believe you even named Froch, PAvlik,Taylor or Wright lol. Cal was a long regining champ while 3 of those guys were still in their baby stages lol. Cal was just beginning when Dm was a champ. That fight wasn't on either man's radar then. Dawson was not tempting enough to lure him back. You are a liar and a grunt, and are just making all this crap up to keep your hero PAc pfp best lol. PAc's been ko'd twice, and never got revenge, and he went after the money fighting old men and never thought about fighting prime bodies. Stop lying to us fans. At least I have legit beefs with PAc and I never lie lol...
     
  6. NALLEGE

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    You are only naming fighters with a name. That's it! Guys like Bika, Mitchell, Sheika, Eubank, Reid, and others are lower level comp to you, but they are defense to me.
     
  7. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I must admit i am ignorant of most of Calzaghe's earlier career. I know he beat Eubank to win his first belt but who else has he beaten that's truly considered an "impressive" win outside of those 3?
     
  8. NALLEGE

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    Manfredo? Do you know how many champions past/present fought bums like Manfredo? Your top 10 pfp best today fought guys worst than Manfredo lol...
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, but are you going to disagree that the three wins i mentioned were CLEARLY his 3 best wins?
     
  10. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    No, not mine. Good post though as most might agree.
     
  11. Ilesey

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    Lie about what exactly? His own opinion. :lol:
     
  12. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you really want me to run down the full list Calzaghe fought from the begining of his title reign and compare it to the guys that were out there who he could have fought?
     
  13. p.Townend

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    I think he lost to Hopkins and Rob Reid niether got a rematch which they should have.Also fights against the likes of Pudwill and Manfreado should not have been for the world title.I think Calzaghe was a good fighter but his record looks better than it is.His fight with Starie was the worst ive had to sit through and im sure anyone who was present that night will agree.
     
  14. BoxingFanNo1

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    You can be sued for your opinion if it's a lie. For example I print an article saying in my opinion you're a ****** I open myself wide up. Oh and Warren gives a hell of a lot of positive points about Calzaghe in that interview. It was balanced not just Calzaghe bashing.
     
  15. NALLEGE

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    That's been done here before. That won't prove anything because you can't prove that Cal didn't try to make a fight with those guys, nor if those guys wanted to make a fight with Cal. You guys list names of fighters he could've fought, and you weren't watching Cal, or what was goind on then. You were watching Jones, Hop and those guys like I was. Guys list years 1997 to 2003 as to times Cal could've fought those guys...comical. I need evidence that he refused fights which you don't have, and when fights were trying to be made. Cal had to fight his way into our hearts because he was an unpopular champion overseas in the eyes of the fighters here in the states. You can't prove a thing at all so don't waste your time. Glen Johnson is the only fight Cal should've made because he signed on the dotted line and backed out because of injury.