Calzaghe`s thoughts on Froch`s self verbalizing praise

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by DaveyboyEssexUK, May 30, 2013.


  1. youaintakiller

    youaintakiller Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe would have never lost to Ward like that. Calzaghe was a hustler who knew the game too well. Froch is a mere hard hitter with a chin, he will never have anything on him.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Abraham's form at SM is poor. This is a widely held opinion, and for good reason too.

    He knocked out a shot Jemain Taylor in the dying seconds of the final round.

    Lost to Dirrell.

    Got totally schooled by Froch, whom he made look like the reincarnation of Wilie Pep.

    Scored a 2 round retirement win over journeyman Bozic (who pulled out with a bad hand) after being given all he could handle by him for the short while it lasted.

    Lost to Ward.

    Stopped an Argentinian cab driver in 5.

    Won a controversial decision over an average Pole, with the help of the referee who did everything in his power to make it as difficult as possible for his opponent, a fight that was much, much closer than then bent judges scorecards and one that everybody was saying that Abraham wasn't **** any more by the end of it.

    Beat Steiglitz (who's nothing to write home about), again on another controversial decision.

    Beat the decidedly average Bouadla.

    And then loses to Steiglitz.

    In short, he hasn't impressed at that weight at all and has struggled against virtually every decent, half decent fighter he's fought there. His best victory at that weight was the rematch against Edison Miranda, whom he stopped in four rounds an eon ago. That said, Miranda hasn't ever beaten anyone notable at that weight himself.

    Bute is a good fighter and a very good win though, although I really don't think that was the best version of Bute at all. His preparation wasn't great and he looked terribly intimidated and out of sorts during his ring walk and didn't seem at all like his usual confident self.
     
  3. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i'll keep this post real short based on the fact that i've had enough of incompetent posters this week already...

    the Hopkins fight was going to take place in America, not Wales as you seem to think. Hopkins would have also made the biggest purse of his career. $3 million.

    these were the conditions from Bernard himself if a Calzaghe fight was to take place. Calzaghe agreed to all of those conditions. Hopkins scuppered those plans by asking for double the money the very next day.

    why did Hopkins ask for double when he was the one that asked for his biggest fight purse ever? IMO, he thought that Wa55en wouldn't be able to pay him the $3 million he asked for so gave a price that would give him an excuse as to why the fight never happened. when his demands were met, he **** himself and asked for double. he did so because he didn't want to fight Joe. he knew how good Joe was and knew he would lose to him, as he did when they eventually met.

    also, i'd like to mention the fact that Hopkins brought in the A team, as he called it, when he did meet Joe in Vegas. Hopkins had never before done this for any fight. nor has he done it since. that tells you a lot right there.

    Taylor did the same thing when asked if he'd like to fight Joe... he said he'd have to be paid the stupid amount of $10 million. basically, he didn't want the fight because he would have had his **** pushed in. easily.

    please check the weights that Toney was fighting at when Joe first won the WBO title way back in 1997.

    Thanks.
     
  4. boxfanlut

    boxfanlut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No excuses if you not ready don't fight. Bute was ready to put it on the line so he's only got himself to blame if his prep was **** and it cost him the fight.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I understand that, and I did say it was a very good win. However, I have seen all but one or two of Bute's fights and for whatever reason he just did not look himself that night.

    I know he had a problem with his foot shortly before the fight (an infection I think) which affected his training and cut short his sparring, and to his credit he didn't make any excuses after the fight either. In fact, he was extremely gracious in defeat. However, I remember Bute's team showed Johnny Nelson a picture of it when he went down to visit their camp to interview Bute and by the look on his face and his reaction you could tell it was pretty ****ing bad. Like I said, Bute never complained about it and it's not like Carl hasn't had his fair share of bad luck with injuries and what not too before fights too.

    Bute is very underrated by many on here and for Froch to deal with him in that manner he did, regardless if it wasn't Bute at his absolute best or not, was still very impressive.
     
  6. DeathEater

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    Agree with Calzaghe 100%
     
  7. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good point Ice , though jones kinda mirrored that by saying fighting joe was too high a risk and to low a reward
     
  8. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch can say what he want's he's a warrior, there arent many of his kind about that can pull off wins with true grit and heart rather than pure boxing ability.

    Hall of fame, similar to Gatti. :good
     
  9. Westy78

    Westy78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know which one I'd rather watch, and it ain't the slapper

    Look at his record after beating a below par Eubank, name me one world class operator he fought in nearly ten years until the lacy fight.
     
  10. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Froch is not worthy of carrying Calzaghe's jock strap!
     
  11. indie_uk1

    indie_uk1 Kong is King Full Member

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    Really?!?! Two words "no mas". I think youll find leonard was an atg.
     
  12. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch and Calzaghe are both great fighters with different styles abilities..to me they are both ATG's...

    Froch was too late, same thing is happening with the like's of DeGale, Groves wanting Froch...sometime's the era makes it more difficult.
     
  13. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Doubt Groves will be too late for Froch.
    Great national spectacle. Groves just has to improve his status a bit and fight a few more names. He's beaten Glen Johnson and Degale so has a name, but needs something more.
    Froch would school him, but it'd be great experience...and Froch could say he never did what Calzaghe did, ignoring the upcoming youth.
    I think the Groves fight will happen in time.
     
  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Froch is entitled to believe what he wants to believe. Let us remember a prize fighter especially a champion should be a larger than life figure and the fact Froch has an ego should not be a surprise. Whether he is the best British fighter ever is irrelevant what s relevant is Froch's belief in himself.
     
  15. Jquik

    Jquik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The difference between Calzaghe and Froch is that Joes whole career was cherry picked right down to his last fight.Froch on the other hand has been fighting the best of the best for the last 5 years with only Yusaf Mack being the exemption,Calzaghe defended his title against guys like Mack for nearly 10 years and no one batted an eye lid.

    Froch can say what he wants as far as I'm concerned,Calzaghe should have fought him instead of playing it safe and retiring.If your not gonna come back and fight keep your trap shut Joe your opinion is null and void.